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  Discontinue unproductive bible study - jw broadcasting

  by Gorbatchov in

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  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-ism_2_video.

  interesting video explaining how to end a bible study.. watch the kind of uber behaviour of the witnesses: make a choice or we leave.... so hard, so not christian.

  no love for the person.. g..

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  Phoebe

  I think they want to get people in asap before they have a chance to ask too many questions or do research, which is so easy to do these days.

  In the old days, we took people through the Truth book, if they weren't coming to meetings within 6 months or by the end of the book, we dropped them. People were coming in so fast and I remember the brothers saying they were coming in too fast and not shedding their world habits which was creating a lot of problems for the elders!

  In the congregation I have now left, there is a sister there who studied for 15 years before she took it seriously and got baptised. My dad studied with people for years, as well. They often came in - eventually. My dad said we can't hurry people...this is a big decision. He got that right!

  End of the day, they want them in because they need the money and perhaps they are worried about the effect apostates are now having.
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  Did anyone else have a JW "sliding doors" moment when they made the wrong call.

  by dozy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  reading the thread on mind numbing meetings reminds me of the following event that occurred when i was about 19.. i'd got a full time job away after leaving school and was working about 20 miles away - thursday night meetings necessitated working later , catching a 6.10pm bus after work and walking 10 minutes or so straight to the kh , often arriving just as the meetings were starting or a few minutes late and getting the "evil eye" from some of the jws when i arrived.

  my parents ( father was the presiding overseer ) would bring my clothes in the car and i would get changed into my suit in the kh toilets.. it was one of those moments when all the stars seemed to align.

  i had had a particularly stressful day at work and was even more tired & hungry than usual on a thursday night.

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  Phoebe

  Dozy.

  Your post resonated with me so much.

  I had that moment too and I blew it. 1977 I had a one way train ticket to start a new life in London and leave my abusive family and the WT behind. In those days moving to the bright lights of London was something no one in my provincial town did. I had a nice job line up, a flat, friends waiting for me.

  My opportunity to disappear from WT and everyone that had caused me pain (family)

  And what did I do?? After about a month, the fear of Armageddon and my family got to me and I not only walked straight back into a K.H but got in contact with my family. Why?? I could have totally changed my life for the better but the GUILT got to me.

  My psychologist asked me, if there was anything I could change what would it be? And immediately told her the exact day in my life when I totally blew an opportunity to have a better life.

  40 years later I finally did it. But the regret is real.
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  Demon Posessed Rock Bands I couldn’t listen to

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  kiss.

  steve miller band (abracadabra).

  eagles.

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  Phoebe

  I've always loved rock music and my favourite band is Avenged Sevenfold but me and my youngest used to go to concerts in secret! And horror of horrors, I've even seen Rammstein ;)

  In my Facebook today I've just had a post that tells me that www.thenicholasking.com is on a big tour this year! Wonder if he sings any demonic songs?

  Is he still la Bethelite and pioneer?
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  Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.

  there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.

  he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.

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  Phoebe

  Absolutely WTWizard

  It's not just about education, careers and financially stability...it's life kids are missing out on,

  My husband (not born in) was chatting to someone about what they did as kids on Saturday morning..watch cartoons, Saturday morning movies at the local cinema etc. The fun they had!

  It made me realise I just didn't have a childhood at all. My weekends were Saturday morning ministry, sometimes Saturday afternoons too and Sunday morning ministry and then the meeting. All this as a small child. No fun whatsoever. Every weekend ministry and meeting. We had no choice and history repeats itself over and over again.

  My husband took up guitar lessons and a pioneer (who clearly felt he shouldn't be having lessons) told him she'd like to learn to play guitar but she belonged to the AA Club...After Armageddon.
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  Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.

  there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.

  he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.

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  Phoebe

  Not only were we discouraged from having a career, we've always been discouraged from putting money in pension plans because we'd never need one.

  Now I am are older (65) and my husband and I are financially in a mess. So imagine how I felt when one of the elders giving this advice retired recently and told me he was sorting out all the many private pension plans he'd set up.

  I could kick myself for being so stupid as to listen to these people when all the time half of them were not taking their own advice.

  Thank goodness, we had the presence of mind to make sure our boys were well educated or we'd never forgive ourselves.
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  JW Kid Meets his Non-Witness Class Mates 60 years On.

  by snugglebunny in

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  yup.

  a while back i came across someone whom i'd been at school with back in the late 50's.

  it was an all-boys school, quite tough, with the accent on games and machinery skills.

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  Phoebe

  That's amazing. What a lovely experience for you.
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  Cart witnessing

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if anyone has posted this before but it's just been put on youtube so i guess it's okay to show you??

  if not, please delete it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdusnlvjm-k.

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  Phoebe

  uh-oh...think its becoming a thing.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIxjk7mTCe4
  
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  Cart witnessing

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if anyone has posted this before but it's just been put on youtube so i guess it's okay to show you??

  if not, please delete it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdusnlvjm-k.

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  Phoebe

  Not sure if anyone has posted this before but it's just been put on youtube so I guess it's okay to show you?? If not, please delete it.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdUSnlVJM-k
  
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  Has Anyone Seen This?

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there is a letter doing thr rounds in a few places.its from a jdub in ntherlands pimi, who is beseeching all jdubs about the child abuse issues.

  the letter is quite long so do not want to post it as i want only those people who may be interested to read it all,to have it ,and not want people to just ignore it coz of its lengthness.

  if anyone wants to have a read just pm me.

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  Phoebe

  Thank you Zin.

  I don't go on reddit so I am glad you mentioned it.

  The letter is excellent and so are many of the responses on reddit.
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  2nd Update/Scary Experience

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  glad to say just got the news that the man who was arrested on suspicion about the dead bodies has been convicted of those two murders.

  his accomplice is on the run, search going on for him.

  there are talks about raising more awareness in the country park area now.. this news helps us to breath a little easy now.. thank you all for your support.. peace..

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  Phoebe

  Zin

  most of us realised you meant charged and English isn’t your first language. Take no notice of some people at least you can speak other languages which is more than I can say for myself!

  im so glad they caught the person. You’ve had a frightening experience and hopefully, no more midnight walks??

  it will take time to get over it and I wish you well.

  Thank you for keeping us updated.