Posts by SanFranciscoJim

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The End of this world

by U.2.K. Tha Greate$t in

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alright alot of people say that the jehovah witness was going on preaching in the early 1900's about how the end was coming before soon and those who was born or living in the year 1918 would still be alive to see christ second coming(or coming and not be seen).

i would'nt know nothing about that, cause i was'nt even born till 1981. but from my study's from the witness, they told me that sort of preaching was never going on.

anyway the point to this post is, "we all know that nobody knows when the end of "this world" will come, the messiah made this clear and said only "god knows".

SanFranciscoJim

Im just wondering, Is anybody here ready for armageddon?

I am absolutely ready for Armageddon. I am also quite ready to be destroyed, if necessary. Here are the reasons:

* I believe that God (if he exists) sees into the heart. Affiliation with any particular denomination will not in any manner save a person from judgement. If Armageddon really does come (which I sincerely doubt), I believe that many people of faith, most particularly Jehovah's Witnesses, will be utterly shocked at whom God chooses to survive.

* If the JW version of Armageddon were to occur, and I was deemed unworthy of survival, I am prepared to meet my fate, because I would rather be destroyed than suffer the eternal torment of living in a world full of judgemental Jehovah's Witnesses for the rest of eternity. That would be Hell.

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Throwing out Old Watchtowers

by Okram in

when you were a jw,.

did u feel guilty about throwing out old copies of the watchtower even if you had the yearly bound volumes?

my mom won't do it.

SanFranciscoJim

Watchtower magazine paper is very good for making Papier Mâchè arts & crafts, especially Piñatas.

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Praise Bill, I got my MCSD !

by Simon in

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as per my previous "proclamations of self-achievement" .

i passed my exam !

wohoo ... passed another exam !.

SanFranciscoJim

Simon, now that you have all these certificates and all this computer knowledge, I have a very serious question I need to ask you:

Where the hell is the "Any Key" ????

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URGENT ALERT !!! Please Read

by Amazing in

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my e-mail account has been compromised.

as a result, i am no longer getting any e-mail or even junk mail ... so someone is re-directing all my e-mail.

also, some of my e-mail are missing, especially in certain sensitive files.

SanFranciscoJim

mulan,
can u share the link to that download?
weds
Yes, please share......

bttt.....I'd be interested in it as well. Thanks!

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homosexuality

by wilton in

im am a 19 year old male who is thinking of leaving christianity for another religion.

i am looking at jw first and before i really start studying it i want to know how the religion works on homosexuality because i have a boyfriend and dont want to leave him.and would i be able to go date and have sex with someone not in the religion.. thank you .

wilton

SanFranciscoJim

But they also believe that gay men and woman can be happy without engaging in homosexual acts. JWs believe that in the near future Christ will transform this Earth finally into Paradise where it will be free of evil and only Jehovah's worshippers will be there.

Belief does not equal fact. JWs have believed that Armageddon was to come in 1914, 1915, 1935, and 1975, and it failed to materialize on all those dates. Just because a religion tells you what to believe does not make it so.

Among its members, theres also gay people.

There are individuals within the JW religion who identify themselves as gay but who choose to remain celibate. In the vast majority of cases, these individuals have chosen to remain deeply closeted within the JW religion because of the extreme shunning practices of the faith. They simply cannot bear the thought of losing contact with their families. They live in terror of being found out, ostracized, expelled, and shunned. Some lead horribly paranoid double lives. Others live in quiet desperation, hoping that they will be "cured" of their sexuality after the Armageddon that never comes. Sadly, some are even driven to suicide.

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Congratulations to the US!!!

by Abaddon in

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... and to the iraqi people.

a weight's been lifted from their shoulders; let's hope that resistance from the loyalists of the saddam reigeme will die down quickly.. whatever misgivings or concerns one might have about the information given out by governments prior to the invasion, i think the capture of saddam hussain is a fantastic achievment.. i think the world will be a safer place when the international community will act together to remove such signal threats to peace and when those who violate human rights and support inter-state aggression know they will be brought to justice, even if they are the head-of-state.

SanFranciscoJim

Just like 9/11(which btw is not a big deal, compare that to armageddon, make note: you dont wanna get caught up in the day GOD get's rid of the wicked).

How does one compare 9/11 (which actually happened) to Armageddon (which has been predicted for over 2000 years and is still an unfulfilled myth?)

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To everone on the board, a serious note!!!!We had the truth...Back I go...

by qwerty in

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got yu!!!!!!!!.

my christmas card to you all............ try clicking on the raindeer!.

qwerty

SanFranciscoJim

I've heard of "Wag the Dog", but this is the first time I've experienced "Wag the Deer".

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"Why show me these things if I am beyond all hope?"

by SanFranciscoJim in

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i just got finished watching yet another version of a christmas carol (this time, the one starring patrick stewart -- one of the better remakes).. those who are familiar with the story will recall when the mysterious ghost of christmas yet to come escorts scrooge into the cemetery and shows him his own grave, scrooge replies with the question: "why show me these things if i am beyond all hope?".

perhaps it's just my usual holiday season depression, but i am in a particularly dark mood tonight.. no spirits have ever visited me.

even god has not made his presence known to me in any manner that i would consider what the bible refers to as "evident demonstration".. i therefore have to draw the conclusion that either my time has not come yet (which i hope), or that i am indeed beyond all hope.

SanFranciscoJim

I family member told me,"See what happens when you try to get close to God? See, he just don't want you."

That reminds me of what the elders told me at my judicial hearing 23 years ago: "God no longer loves you, not for what you do, but for who you are."

Even though those words were spoken to me nearly a quarter century ago, I can still hear them ringing in my ears. Of course, I don't believe that crap any more.

Unfortunately, I don't feel the presence of God either. I think that "empty space" becomes more noticeable during the holidays. Frankly, I miss it, but I wonder if I ever really had the audience of God, or whether I was just deluding myself into believing in something because I needed to believe in something.

I consider myself a "hopeful agnostic". I question the existence of God, but am hopeful that one day, if he exists, he will look down on me and give me some sign of his presence.

A visit by three spirits on Christmas Eve would be a good place to start.

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homosexuality

by wilton in

im am a 19 year old male who is thinking of leaving christianity for another religion.

i am looking at jw first and before i really start studying it i want to know how the religion works on homosexuality because i have a boyfriend and dont want to leave him.and would i be able to go date and have sex with someone not in the religion.. thank you .

wilton

SanFranciscoJim

Wilton, welcome to the board! Thank you for your courage in posting your question here.

I am gay, and a former Jehovah's Witness. I echo the sentiments of Ray and Gretchen. Before you take any further steps to join the JWs, consider this:

* The JWs teach that homosexuals are "an abomination" and "detestable".

* The JWs have actually put in print that homosexuality is caused by demon posession.

* The JWs believe that homosexuals are in the same class with pedophiles and practitioners of beastiality.

* If you become a JW, you will be required to spend the rest of your life completely celibate (even though they hypocritically condemn the celibacy of Catholic priests). Even masturbation is forbidden.

* As a JW, you will be required to go from door to door preaching to others that homosexuality is "disgusting" in the eyes of God, whenever they publish an article about the gay community, which is fairly frequent.

After reading the above, I hope this will enlighten you to what lay in store for you if you should decide to join. I have been gone from the JWs for more than 23 years, and in that time have had a lot of opportunity to do a great deal of independent reserach on the religion.

Don't just concentrate on the gay issue. Examine very closely all of the evidence that is out there regarding the JW religion. A good place to start would be: http://www.freeminds.org/

For issues about JWs related to the gay community, look at: http://www.gayxjw.org/

I hope this has been of some help to you. If you want to discuss matters further, please feel free to send me a private message through this board any time.

Again, welcome!......JIM

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Doom for the Democrats

by stillajwexelder in

with saddam captured and the economy fast improving, do you think the democrats are doomed in the 2004 presidential race?

i certainly think so and hope so.

george w, bush for president again.

SanFranciscoJim

I did NOT have sex with that woman
oh wait, did I cross party lines again?????

His mistake was, instead of saying "I did not have sex with that woman", he should have used another famous presidential line:

"A day that will live in infamy."

(See? I can cross party lines, too!)