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  Withdrawing community support in the congs

  by purrpurr in

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  i've noticed in the past 10 years that the social support that used to be available in the congs, a shoulder to cry on, elders to help with family/marriage issues these seem to have been purposely withdrawn.

  counsel is even heard from the platform that the elders are not there to help people with their problems.. so first in the 80s-90s they take away the congregation get to getters and social events and now they seem to be going one step further in taking away the emotional support for people too.. this will take away an aspect that i'm sure was keeping alot of people in the borg, the community support.

  if that's not there and its just about meetings and ministry how many will start to get their emotional support elsewhere?.

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  I really think the gb are so terrified of apostates that they are shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to how they treat the flock

  Too bad they don't aim higher.
  
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  Shallowness in 4/29 Watchtower study

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  move forward as a spiritual person.. paragraph 2 "robert and his wife began passing time by quizzing each other on bible subjects.

  his wife, a spiritually strong person, had no problem answering the questions, but robert found himself constantly embarrassed, not knowing what to say.".

  there is no indication of how she fits the template of a spiritual person other than she can answer bible trivia.

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  His wife, a spiritually strong person, had no problem answering the questions, but Robert found himself constantly embarrassed, not knowing what to say."

  So why does WT not condamn his unnamed wife for marrying someone who was not a spiritually "strong" man? What was it Crazy Tony said about being a MS by the time you were 23? The woman could NOT have been spiritually "strong" if she ignored governing body orders no matter how many Bible trivia answers she could spit out, could she?
  
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  Withdrawing community support in the congs

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've noticed in the past 10 years that the social support that used to be available in the congs, a shoulder to cry on, elders to help with family/marriage issues these seem to have been purposely withdrawn.

  counsel is even heard from the platform that the elders are not there to help people with their problems.. so first in the 80s-90s they take away the congregation get to getters and social events and now they seem to be going one step further in taking away the emotional support for people too.. this will take away an aspect that i'm sure was keeping alot of people in the borg, the community support.

  if that's not there and its just about meetings and ministry how many will start to get their emotional support elsewhere?.

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  So if they don't help people spiritually, emotionally or practically like a clergyman would, what is their function!

  Someone has to collect the $$$$$.

  Maybe it is all by design, or planned that way. The congregation or ''brotherhood" could never be at fault, it was always ""your own"" undoing per se.

  That is true. It is by design, as many WT parrot lessons say pretty much what you observed. It is NEVER the responsibility of another person, it is ALWAYS your fault if you are left out, ignored, hurt, stumbled or whatever.
  
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  Why NO bibles??

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know we have all said it before, but it simply blows my mind that the jws doing cart work do not have bibles on the cart to give out to interested ones!.

  how can they say they are "bible students" trying to share the "bibles message" and not give out bibles!?.

  other christian groups take the commission to share the bible seriously!

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  Why NO Bibles?

  Because, IMO, Bibles are similar to firearms. If you carry one you may have to use it. And just like a firearm, a Bible in the hands of an ignorant person is dangerous! So take those Bibles away from the ignorant JDubs for their own safety and that of those who may be injured by their misuse of a Bible.
  
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  Wasted A #@$%&!** Day

  by FedUpJW in

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  2. beliefs

  well i got to waste another day.

  for the sake of still in family i attended the circuit assembly.

  they say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved.

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  Well I got to waste another day. For the sake of still in family I attended the circuit assembly.

  They say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved. So here is my attempt at halving my burden from this wasted day.

  Theme was Don't Give Up In Fulfilling The Law of Christ. Review questions for each part were as follows with my answers as the general take away from what the speaker said from my perspective.
  

  1) What is the law of Christ? My answer: Rules, regulations, everything that is written in the Bible.

  2) How can we fulfill the law of Christ when unseen by humans? Don't look at porn. Watching porn starts by viewing swimwear ads. Those ads pop up when a person surfs the channels on their TV or the internet. So don't surf channels or the net as that is the first step.

  3) How do we fulfill the law of Christ in the ministry? We judge people who do not follow Christ as wicked. We use invitation campaigns to analyze people as to whether they are the kind of people God wants to save. We should never allow ourselves to feel that we are not qualified as the FDS has given us Jay Double You dot Org, videos, and the presentations in the mid-week meeting worksheet. They have told us what we need to say so we are qualified.

  Song and Announcement(s) Just one announcement. Jehovah loves a cheerful giver. There are boxes for you to put your contribution in. Make checks out to Jehovah's Witnesses and if you don't want to write a check there are two convenient ATM/Credit card machines you can use.

  4) What makes the law of Christ superior to the Mosaic law? There were over 600 law in the law of Moses. Christ law is better because it is much more comprehensive, covering EVERY aspect of our lives. Christ's law is all principles. Remember like a traffic light, laws are red and that means STOP! Principles are yellow, that mean you have to think. (Then stop. I guess they never heard of a GREEN light! I'd hate to be behind these nitwits if they were driving)

  Baptism: Satan wants you to be fearful. Seven things that will cause you fear. Satan, man, teasing, missing out on fun, making mistakes, persecution, death. Don't be fearful though because we have to suffer if we want God's blessing. Only 2 baptized. Attendance was 720.

  DINNER BREAK: Out to the vehicle for a quick drive to town!
  

  Experiences: Some young female bragged about pioneering right out of high school because she had the "perfect" circumstances. She only worked part time one day a week, and lived at home with her parents. She had a hard struggle to keep pioneering as the years went by, but by only working that one day a week, still living at home, and now DEPENDING ON HER HUSBAND and praying she was able to keep pioneering. (What a leech!)

  Watchtower discussion: The usual parade of parrots chirping their rehearsed canned answers. And the "conductor" spouting off how witnesses have happy lives, happy marriages, happy...happy...happy.

  5) How can marriage mates and parents fulfill the law of Christ? In marriage remember the man is the boss. Parents train your kids to ask other people for advice when they need to make a decision. And do not play school sports, get a better education, or plan for the future monetarily.

  6) How can you fulfill the law of Christ at school? School is full of pressure from wicked people. They will pressure you to follow Satan by dating, playing school sports, or by experimenting with homosexual sex. Don't text pictures of yourself in a swimming suit to a boy who sent you a selfie taken at a gym.
  

  Song and announcement(s): Read the accounts report. Announced the mandatory deficit and reminded everyone that Jehovah loves a cheerful giver. Boxes are there to put your contribution in , and we have two machines for those of you who would rather use your ATM/credit cards.

  7) How can we love others, just as Jesus loved us? Witnesses show love to their brothers after natural disasters. The "branch" big-wig gave an experience about a flood in Texas (USA) where an entire street of homes were totally demolished. One elderly JDub widow had her home completely gutted and restored even better than new. They even added an extra room. Meanwhile a (wicked) Catholic widow across the street sat in her pile of rubble watching what was going on. A couple JDub females saw a dog that had returned to the demolished house next door to the Witness widow's house and saw it looking forlorn and it was starting to rain so they got a small table and put over the dog, Then they got some food and water for the dog, and put a tarp over it to keep it dry. The (wicked) Catholic woman was so impressed she said she would talk to the witnesses next time they came to her home, she never had let them talk before. I wondered WHAT HOME? Wouldn't it have made more sense to show compassion to that (wicked) Catholic woman instead of the damned dog?!!??? We also show love by respecting each other. MS should respect elders, elders should respect circuit overseers, circuit overseers should respect branch personnel, branch personnel should respect the governing body, and of course the Ama-Ah'rets should respect all of the above. Now who says the Jdubs do not have a clergy/laity division?

  Thank for sharing this burden...I think I may even be able to hold down supper now!
  
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  2018 Courage Convention video invitation

  by Listener in

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  the video invitation for the 2018 convention is just creepy.

  i thought it was some parody at first as it seems 'dark'.it begins with a young man being pushed whilst standing at his locker and the voice over says that 'in critical times we need courage more than ever'.

  next, comes a clip of a male putting his hand on the shoulder of a female worker, the look she gives him would be enough to give him nightmares for the next year.

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  I wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot pole!

  I wouldn't touch her with a vaccinated crowbar.
  
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  Retirement Planning

  by Whynot in

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  since waking up i can't help but look at the future in a different way.

  while i was working i felt it was ridiculous for me to start a 401k because i thought for sure the end would come before i retired.

  but now, i'm a stay at home mom with very small children and it bothers me that i have done nothing to prepare for the future.

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  There's rarely one huge things that you can save on but if there are lots of small $10 things going out of your bank each month those can really add up.

  A written cash budget can help. There are a number of great free budget templates online. I started one for curiosity over ten years ago, and never quit. Keep all your receipts and enter them in the correct categories. Keep track of everything, including cash for little things like a cup of coffee etc. You will see quickly WHERE your money is going and you can make needed cuts before expenses get out of hand. Cash "leaks" are the most wasteful and easiest spending to control...with a written budget. After I did this instead of always having an empty wallet, now I find that there is ALWAYS cash in it, and most of the time more than just a few dollars. Of course it will take discipline, and a little time, but the rewards can be great.
  
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  Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?

  by Sour Grapes in

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  there are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.

  in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.

  all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.

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  How about having several meetings a month in some bunker as trial runs for the future.

  While there may be some locations where "security" dictates that kingdom halls go on lock-down I have noticed that even in small, think 5,000 or less, population towns the kingdom halls are doing a lock-down for all meetings. If you are not there by conclusion of opening prayer you have to knock and be admitted by an elder. Practice for bunkers? IDK, but the ramping up of the "things in the world are soOOoo bad for us JDubs" and the increasing persecution complex they are being fed it would be easy for people to get paranoid about what the WTB&T$$ cult leaders are planning.

  Personally I much rather expect the unexpected. No harm no foul if it doesn't happen, but prepared if it does.
  
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  You Know You're Starting To Wake Up When...

  by pale.emperor in

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  you start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".

  you pretend to knock on the doors.

  you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.

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  ...When you start noticing that the answer to every f**king question or problem is "study more" or "pray more"

  Or PAY more? You are not being blessed by gawd because he needs your money and you are not giving enough!
  
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  KH hall 4 sale just whose waters are supposed to be drying up again?!

  by nowwhat? in

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  avon lake ohio.

  while new mega church being built right down the street!.

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  ...then what?

  Enforced tithing? Link your bank account and let us determine how much you will give each month? Or maybe just another "going out of business" sale?