My dad also had another saying whenever someone would go off on the "throwing money in the streets" tangent. He would say, "Better it is to have it and throw it in the streets, than to not have it and live on the street dependent on the charity of others."
FedUpJW
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Post your experiance with JWs who did not save for retirement and had to work or live off off SS till death
by wolverines inbut one i remember was a full on dyed in the wool believer how was a farmer.
around 1975 he sold his farm moved his family to a very rural place and waited for the end to come.
he ended up working for his brother in law hanging drywall.
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Post your experiance with JWs who did not save for retirement and had to work or live off off SS till death
by wolverines inbut one i remember was a full on dyed in the wool believer how was a farmer.
around 1975 he sold his farm moved his family to a very rural place and waited for the end to come.
he ended up working for his brother in law hanging drywall.
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FedUpJW
Was your dad a non-JW? That was good advice he gave to save for the future.
No. He actually had responsibilities from the local congregation right up to the old district level. He was what some had termed a "heavy hitter", however he also was a very intelligent practical man. He was what a friend of mine described as an iron fist in a velvet glove. The velvet glove was used to comfort, assist, and gently guide anyone who needed. The iron fist, more often than not, was used to put fellow elders in their proper place. I am biased, but I believe he fit closely the example Jesus gave with the recorded kindness and forgiveness for the Ama-Ahrets, and the way he came down, hard, on the Pharisees. He was finally put out to pasture when my mother developed Alzheimer's, and I remember him saying a number of times, "Jehovah's Witnesses have love on their lips, but none in their hearts."
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Post your experiance with JWs who did not save for retirement and had to work or live off off SS till death
by wolverines inbut one i remember was a full on dyed in the wool believer how was a farmer.
around 1975 he sold his farm moved his family to a very rural place and waited for the end to come.
he ended up working for his brother in law hanging drywall.
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FedUpJW
I can think of lots of JWs who didn't save a dime of what they earned because they reasoned that the scripture says they will "throw it in the streets", thus no use saving it.
My parents encouraged getting a GOOD education, getting a GOOD job, and SAVING for the future. My dad said many times, "Savings are stored labor." In order to live in later years one can either spend our "stored labor" in the form of savings on life's necessities, or you can work until you drop and spend labor that you may no longer be physically able to spend.
I know several JW's in their 70's and even 80's still trying to spend enough physical labor to make ends meet, when they could be doing what I am doing, ten to twenty years younger than they are, and living life debt free and carefully spending my stored labor set aside over several decades of physical work and investing/saving.
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Do You Think All These Organized Demonstrations Are Productive?
by minimus infrom washington state to new york city to atlanta and california and so on, you see thousands of demonstrators trying to get rid of police, statues, monuments and anything they consider racially biased.. do you think this type of activity and destruction is working well for the country and it’s law abiding citizens?
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FedUpJW
Organized demonstrations are fine. What we are witnessing though are mostly not by any definition protests or peaceful. They do nothing to make things better, and only serve to further divide this country. Of course that would appear to be the agenda behind the "protests". They are in reality nothing other than law-breaking riots, and should be dealt with as such.
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Guns...Are You For or Against Legally Owning Them?
by minimus inthere is a surge going on of people buying guns, especially first time buyers.
with talk of police defunding and rioting in the neighborhoods, some people want to protect themselves.. do you support owning and using a gun if needed?.
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FedUpJW
I have a saying, "You can haul one horse in a ten horse trailer much easier than you can haul ten in a one horse trailer." To those who understand how this applies to firearm ownership, no explanation is needed; to those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
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Watchtower June 2020 Article, '' Return to Me''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower—study edition | june 2020. .
study article 26.
6 who can share in the search for inactive ones?
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FedUpJW
He has helped more than 40 Witnesses to return to the congregation.
While lovingly ignoring the elderly already there witnesses, the poor witnesses, the less educated witnesses, the single witnesses, the younger witnesses without parental guidance, the sexually abused witnesses, the physically abused wives. . .
And how many have left because of his treatment? Welcome some in the front door while kicking many more out the back door! Sorry S.O.B.'s!
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Parents of Sarah Kellen, Ghislaine Maxwell's 'lieutenant', are JW's. Fear df'd daughter will be charged in Epstein case
by AndersonsInfo in"parents of ghislaine maxwell's 'lieutenant' sarah kellen worry their daughter will be arrested and charged in epstein's child sex trafficking ring, as they claim teen was 'brainwashed.
quote: but with concerns mounting over her behavior, kellen was disfellowshipped, a disciplinary sanction whereby she was expelled from the church and ostracized by its members, including her own family.‘it was all handled out there.
it’s very private, there’s a committee that meets and they go over everything.
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FedUpJW
The father of the "Prodigal Son" never laid conditions and restrictions upon him before welcoming him home.
And do JW's even stop to think that the father did not boot the son out? No, he simply let the son leave when the son determined he was going to go. Then he waited, and welcomed the son back when he wanted to return to the family home. Completely 180° different than the JW's.
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Guns...Are You For or Against Legally Owning Them?
by minimus inthere is a surge going on of people buying guns, especially first time buyers.
with talk of police defunding and rioting in the neighborhoods, some people want to protect themselves.. do you support owning and using a gun if needed?.
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FedUpJW
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
I have a CWP. I carry all the time. I am not afraid. I am not "compensating". I have concealed carried for over four decades. I do find that the responsibility of doing so tends to make me more tolerant of other people's stupidity. And yes, there have been two or three times that a firearm was put into play, but so far I have never had to pull the trigger, as ill-mannered criminally engaged idiots settle right down very quickly when they only see the presence of even an un-holstered sidearm. Then the police deal with them when they finally arrive.
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In the USA, why so often is the vote for President just a vote against someone?
by RubaDub inin my lifetime, (i will include kennedy even though i was probably breast-feeding at the time), but it seems that there have been relatively few presidents that we vote "for.
" my list would be kennedy, reagan, clinton and obama.
i'm not talking about their politics here but who generally got voted for, instead of simply voting against.. any thoughts?.
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FedUpJW
The real joke that both parties are the same side of the coin.
EXACTLY! Just different sides of the same counterfeit coin, and like anything counterfeit, not worth anything! George Carlin had a very good bit about not voting.
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How Did You Discover This Site?
by minimus ini’ve been here a long time.
i saw this site jwd/jwn.
i thought it was very lively and interesting.
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FedUpJW
Told one Sunday morning nearly twelve years ago by a substitute conductor that I would not be permitted my assigned turn to read the WT that morning because it was about "marrying only in the Lord" and over a decade earlier I had married "out of duh troof".
Asked why that made a difference as she had divorced me and I had been single for a LONG time. Told that it was holy spirit that prevented me from reading, even though I had read the same material in other WT "studies" over the years between. Told that I was reprehensible, and came home and started looking online for information from independent sources about other people experiences with WT B.S. and the rest is history, as they say.