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  What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

  by mentalclarity in

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  so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

  i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

  some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

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  Family. If I completely walk away at this point in time there will be NO ONE to look after elderly family. For them I stay...for now. When they pass the oh so "loving" asshats in charge are going to get more than an earful of why I am FedUp.
  
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  What is behind your choice of forum user name?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

  there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

  i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

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  For many reasons I am FedUp with the crap being passed off as just the way it is in the "loving" organization. Too much lies, too much nepotism, too much BS!

  The avatar indicates my opinion of the web site and their push for the latest, greatest gadgets.
  
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  Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.

  the judge of all the earth always does what is right.

  intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?

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  Who, upon being stumbled by another JW would become “enraged against Jehovah,” because of it? Could someone please shed some light on how that verse is applied under these circumstances?

  The old go-to excuse is that if some jack-wad at the KH really does something to piss you off, perhaps even theft or some sort of fraud, and you decide to skip going to the meetings because the idiot elders refuse to handle the situation, even promoting that jack-wad to MS or elder himself, then you are alleged to be enraged against Jehovah. It's just another case of equating men to the same level as God, and you better d--ned well like it.
  
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  Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.

  the judge of all the earth always does what is right.

  intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?

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  FedUpJW

  WT calls these things done to the rank and file "injustices",

  Most often they are called "mistakes", or they are routinely brushed off as "seeming" injustice, "perceived" injustice, or very "rare", and ALWAYS it is the victims fault. Something THEY did that warranted being treated like dirt on the bottom of the governing body's shoes!

  Now I wonder why I am FEDUP?
  
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  Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.

  the judge of all the earth always does what is right.

  intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?

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  Or perhaps someone could make this comment, "We see that what this brother endured was 68 years ago, Today we see the same type of penalties imposed on brothers who may choose to grow a short well trimmed beard, even though there is NO bible proof that it is wrong they will loose most if not all privileges as a result of growing one when they are told they cannot have one by appointed men."
  
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  Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.

  the judge of all the earth always does what is right.

  intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?

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  I wish I were still allowed to comment, I would say, "We see from the paragraph that this brother and his intended knew that the edict not to marry was against what the bible said, so they defied the organization and paid the penalty for following God rather than men. We must follow the words of Acts 5: 29 also, even IF it goes against those who are in appointed positions, if we do not want to make god sad."
  
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  Restrictions

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what kind of restrictions are people put under when their behaviour has been considered worthy of disfellowshipping but have managed to avoid the big "d"?.

  me (going back a bit):.

  1. never to be in the company of the lady unchaperoned although we were "betrothed".. 2. removed from ministerial servants position.. 3. not allowed to pray in the congregation at all, including book study.. 4. removed as watchtower study conductor.. 5. removed as public speaker and talks at service meetings.. 6. removed as pioneer.. 7. report to po once a month.. amazingly, i missed none of those things and relished the freedom from responsibility.

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  They told me i should be "reaching out".

  I had the same experience. Had all "privileges" removed when I grew my close trimmed beard. I had facial skin cancer at the time. When they loaded me down again I declined to fulfill the duties they tried to force on me and I got the "you should be reaching out" crap. I asked them to show me where in the bible it said I had to reach out. They of course flipped to 1 Tim. 3: 1. I asked what part of "IF" was a command. Of course they had n answer to that!

  So at present I do not get to comment anymore, do not get to say prayers anymore, do not get to read at the book and WT studies anymore. I do get stuck on the list to pay for the Sunday speakers dinner though. I decline that. I do get to be put on the list for cleaning the toilets. I refuse. I do get hit up for money to pay for all the latest "wants" of the eldurrs. I firmly say "NO" to those. When the last of my still in elderly family (only one left) goes then so do I!
  
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  Isn't there a better way

  by FedUpJW in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  just got done clicking streets signs, store fronts, vehicles, mountains, and roads capcha squares.

  and yes, i clicked what was requested.

  each time i login i get one or two more capcha challenges added to the number.. isn't there a better way to login?.

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  Just got done clicking streets signs, store fronts, vehicles, mountains, and roads CAPCHA squares. And yes, I clicked what was requested. Each time I login I get one or two more CAPCHA challenges added to the number.
  

  Isn't there a better way to login?
  
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  Will there ever be an apology from GB for going beyond what's written ?

  by Chook in

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  just a simple " we are sorry " .

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  Will there ever be an apology from GB for going beyond what's written ?

  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
  
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  Day One Lowlights

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  too much crap to keep track of, but a few low lights of day one of the regional convention stuck out.

  in no particular time sequence here is some of what i managed to hold down.. tight pants yapped on in the opening part about a three part theme to conventions.

  part 1 was in 2016, part 2 is this year, and part 3 is in the works for 2018. i guess the big a isn't coming for a couple more years, at least.. then it was really stressed that all good dubs must always be prepared to "witness" by carrying jay double you, dot org calling cards, and of course wear your id card for the convention at all times, and all places.. next was the strong statement that the purpose of the carts/trolleys is not to place literature, it is to direct people of the public to "our" web site!

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  Day 3

  A little late... several things from memory.

  God doesn't make a multitude of rules! Jesus only made TWO rules. Now why would the governing body think they should do something that neither God or Jesus did?

  607 BCE and 1914 are ESTABLISHED FACT! They CANNOT be changed! This was said with some of the most forceful emphasis of the whole dog and pony show. Seems to me I remember reading those same type of words said by CTR over 100 years ago, and he was wrong...too.

  There were 22 baptized. Attendance of an average of 3,400. All obviously born-ins, and the youngest a disgusting, tiny, 10 years old!

  Last part it was hammered on how the "new improved" understanding of what a generation is proves that Armageddon is just around the corner...soon...very soon.

  I also enjoyed another chance to use someones handy dandy tablet to have them personally compare what the WT used to say about those of the generation by no means passing away BEFORE all the things Jesus foretold happened with what the last speaker said. The last of the claimed 144,000 would be called to heaven BEFORE the foretold events all came to completion, claiming that is another proof of how close Armageddon is.

  A personal observation was that this regional convention was one of the most dreary, depressing, negative ones I have ever been to. So much was said, over and over and over again about terminal illness, debilitating depression, money woes, physical infirmities, everything that could make a person hate life was what they put out there as the true JDubs lot in life, but don't worry folks..."soon" all that will go away...if you DON'T GIVE UP! (BTW, please drop in your money or swipe your card at the ATM on the way out tonight)

  Thank gawd it is done for another year! I only hope my 86 year old dad doesn't want to put up with the crowds again.