some of the videos on youtube really make the beard policy look ridiculous.
i wondered what would happen if the jw beard policy caused someone to stumble?
jesus most likely wore a beard, and charles taze russell had a beard.
Being stumbled by the WT beard ban policy is the individuals fault, not anything for WT to worry about.
This quote pretty well sums their excuse up: *** w88 8/15 p. 30 Maintaining Our Christian Oneness ***
Whatever the case, how regrettable it is when such overly sensitive ones allow themselves to be offended by trifles..."
You see if one is stumbled according to WT it is that persons fault. Always blame the victim.
i posted this thread sometime last year but thought i would revive it due to the new ones on the board, and to change things up a bit.
my favorite?
bro murikami, from hawaii, very humble, kind bro.
Good Ones (IMO): Marv Hollien - early sixties, Wayne Bjornson - early seventies, Gary Breaux - back in the day, Numan Zurahn - actually seemed to care about people.
Bad Ones (IMO): ??? Green - mid sixties, a real prick to kids, M. Harfman - an arrogant prick, Steve Misterfeld, ??? Prouton, ??? Smelser, basically every last mothers son of them except for the very few that tried to be decent people, at least IMO.
so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.
i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.
some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.
Family. If I completely walk away at this point in time there will be NO ONE to look after elderly family. For them I stay...for now. When they pass the oh so "loving" asshats in charge are going to get more than an earful of why I am FedUp.
just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
For many reasons I am FedUp with the crap being passed off as just the way it is in the "loving" organization. Too much lies, too much nepotism, too much BS!
The avatar indicates my opinion of the web site and their push for the latest, greatest gadgets.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.
the judge of all the earth always does what is right.
intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?
Who, upon being stumbled by another JW would become “enraged against Jehovah,” because of it? Could someone please shed some light on how that verse is applied under these circumstances?
The old go-to excuse is that if some jack-wad at the KH really does something to piss you off, perhaps even theft or some sort of fraud, and you decide to skip going to the meetings because the idiot elders refuse to handle the situation, even promoting that jack-wad to MS or elder himself, then you are alleged to be enraged against Jehovah. It's just another case of equating men to the same level as God, and you better d--ned well like it.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.
the judge of all the earth always does what is right.
intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?
WT calls these things done to the rank and file "injustices",
Most often they are called "mistakes", or they are routinely brushed off as "seeming" injustice, "perceived" injustice, or very "rare", and ALWAYS it is the victims fault. Something THEY did that warranted being treated like dirt on the bottom of the governing body's shoes!
Now I wonder why I am FEDUP?
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.
the judge of all the earth always does what is right.
intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?
Or perhaps someone could make this comment, "We see that what this brother endured was 68 years ago, Today we see the same type of penalties imposed on brothers who may choose to grow a short well trimmed beard, even though there is NO bible proof that it is wrong they will loose most if not all privileges as a result of growing one when they are told they cannot have one by appointed men."
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.
the judge of all the earth always does what is right.
intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?
I wish I were still allowed to comment, I would say, "We see from the paragraph that this brother and his intended knew that the edict not to marry was against what the bible said, so they defied the organization and paid the penalty for following God rather than men. We must follow the words of Acts 5: 29 also, even IF it goes against those who are in appointed positions, if we do not want to make god sad."
what kind of restrictions are people put under when their behaviour has been considered worthy of disfellowshipping but have managed to avoid the big "d"?.
me (going back a bit):.
1. never to be in the company of the lady unchaperoned although we were "betrothed".. 2. removed from ministerial servants position.. 3. not allowed to pray in the congregation at all, including book study.. 4. removed as watchtower study conductor.. 5. removed as public speaker and talks at service meetings.. 6. removed as pioneer.. 7. report to po once a month.. amazingly, i missed none of those things and relished the freedom from responsibility.
They told me i should be "reaching out".
I had the same experience. Had all "privileges" removed when I grew my close trimmed beard. I had facial skin cancer at the time. When they loaded me down again I declined to fulfill the duties they tried to force on me and I got the "you should be reaching out" crap. I asked them to show me where in the bible it said I had to reach out. They of course flipped to 1 Tim. 3: 1. I asked what part of "IF" was a command. Of course they had n answer to that!
So at present I do not get to comment anymore, do not get to say prayers anymore, do not get to read at the book and WT studies anymore. I do get stuck on the list to pay for the Sunday speakers dinner though. I decline that. I do get to be put on the list for cleaning the toilets. I refuse. I do get hit up for money to pay for all the latest "wants" of the eldurrs. I firmly say "NO" to those. When the last of my still in elderly family (only one left) goes then so do I!
just got done clicking streets signs, store fronts, vehicles, mountains, and roads capcha squares.
and yes, i clicked what was requested.
each time i login i get one or two more capcha challenges added to the number.. isn't there a better way to login?.
Just got done clicking streets signs, store fronts, vehicles, mountains, and roads CAPCHA squares. And yes, I clicked what was requested. Each time I login I get one or two more CAPCHA challenges added to the number.
Isn't there a better way to login?
