i’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.
our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.
once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.
Any JW can be disfellowshipped at any time for any reason 3 JW elders agree upon.
That's not hyperbole.
Those are the EXACT words my father, who was an elder truly deserving of the term shepherd said. He was pretty well hated by other "elders" for his realistic take on Da Troof.
i’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.
our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.
once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.
I am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point. What I’m most wanting is input on details on what sort of ‘punishment’ she may expect once our marriage is public to all and input on what society elders can and cannot do over willful marriage of a baptized JW to an ardent disbeliever.
She will be DF'd for the catch-all accusation of "brazen conduct" unless she manages to cry and plead for mercy, in which case the least that will happen is that she will be marked as unwholesome association and treated as if she were disfellowshipped until she has groveled enough, long enough to satisfy their vindictive attitudes. My question is, why do you either want to play by their rules?
now they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.
it always makes me a bit sad.
i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.
We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
But were gonna count every last one of them anyway, and report that number claiming that any decrease is proof that the end is near, or that an increase is proof that the end is near and the last ones are being gathered in just before the end of the end of the end right before the real end.
now they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.
it always makes me a bit sad.
i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.
unless the 'slave' guides them.
Whenever I happen to get in a conversation with PIMI JW's who use that term I Ask them why they do not refer to who "the slave" is? then I proceed to ask questions about what the governing body is telling them, and substitute governing body for "the slave" every chance I get. A PIMI friend told me I should not do that because it makes it sound like they follow men.
Everyone just has to touch the emblems like they have been poisoned and the emblems emit the antidote which is absorbed through the skin.
The same PIMI friend mentioned above has been getting pretty pushy about "returning" to Jehovah and coming to the memorial as it will be in person and, "We have missed seeing you." I gave what I hope was a noncommittal answer that I might. Then I told him that IF in fact I did I would not be touching the glass or plate as they were passed because I did not know what others may pass on after THEY touched them. He nearly blew a gasket claiming that I would be showing disrespect.
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No, you are not obligated in any way. What you decide to do with that knowledge is up to you.
Do you see signs that the student is trying to obey Jesus’ commandments? Most important, does he want to become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses?
From the same WT is the rest of the quote: ". . .continuing to study with him would be like trying to give swimming lessons to someone who does not want to get wet! If the student . . . is not willing to make changes (Get baptized as a JW), why continue studying with him?
So YES, if someone "studies" with the JW's it is most definitely expected, if not demanded that they become a JW themselves.
experience from reddit.
i’m in my mid 20’s but i’m noticing alot of sisters that are 35, 40 and just kind of lost.
single, still live at home or heavily dependent on parents because they have measly jobs.
@ Data-Dog 10 hours ago.
It would seem you've been reading my mail.
Perhaps being single, dating beautiful men and women, and going home to your own bed WITHOUT THE DRAMA, is the best option these days.
Not only "Yes", but "HELL YES!"
experience from reddit.
i’m in my mid 20’s but i’m noticing alot of sisters that are 35, 40 and just kind of lost.
single, still live at home or heavily dependent on parents because they have measly jobs.
so reading that the dubs are going back to their kingdumb halls got me thinking, i guess they haven’t been getting their regular inspections from thier circuit overseers.
if they haven’t had their meetings, the inspectors couldn’t visit - or did they?
i’m intrigued.
I noticed that the C.O. in my area who is living in the kingdom hall apartment now has two vehicles. I was told that he and the C.O.W. do not even go out for groceries but still have them door delivered. Not sure why he would need two vehicles if they don't go anywhere and have everything they need dropped off at the door and then bring it in after the delivery person leaves.
yep, the vacation is over, it's time to go to work------for free!
😭😢😓😰😡.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/.
The word around my area is that in-person meetings begin April 01. No need to be jabbed or to mask if one so chooses. I also heard that the eldurr who read that out also concluded by saying that, "just like our meeting tonight taught us that obedience is better than a sacrifice, even though we are anxious to get back to meeting in person at the kingdom hall we will all be sure to obey the requirements for doing so."
One week before this in-person announcement a letter was read about the pressing need to immediately start cleaning and sterilizing the kingdom hall, and that any who volunteered for the "privilege" MUST have two COVID jabs, wear masks at all times, and distance themselves from other persons. So which is it? Personal choice, or requirements?
We know the answer. It is personal choice, as long as the drones do what they are ordered to do!
My personal choice? Stay away!
there’s no proof that prayers have any effect whatsoever, other than perhaps giving the person who prays a false sense of having done something.
all claims that prayers have been answered are either anecdotal, fraudulent, delusional or are the result of either pure coincidence or confirmation bias.. how many prayers do you need in a day?.
you get up and eat breakfast...you pray for another day of life.
@ R & R - Your list left out the large numbers of prayers that the governing body has put in print JW's must also pray:
*** ws16 May p. 16 par. 4 How Do You Make Personal Decisions? ***
"So before we make a decision, we need to think about what the Bible says and then obey it. We can pray to Jehovah to help us make decisions that will please him."
So pray before deciding which side of the bed to get out of in the morning, which sock to put on first, shirt first or pants, what color shirt, what to eat for breakfast, fill up with fuel in your vehicle before going to work or after, turn left or turn right, what to eat for noon dinner, pick up groceries on the way home or wait until tomorrow, there are so many decisions that a person makes every day on auto-pilot, and every single one of them are another reason to stop and say a prayer for help making that decision, then say a prayer of thanks for being able to finally make the decision at all.
Is it any wonder so many JW's cannot make any decision without begging the eldurrs for their "help"?
