i have always been told as a jw that trinitarians, particularly baptists, are just the worst people to argue with out in service.
i have always been told it was the world with a veil over their eyes.
the hypocritical irony is that so many witnesses are completely stubborn and willing to believe in magic before they believe anything against their dogma.
I find now that I have a better understanding of what new testament writers are referencing in the old testament,the arguments against the diety of Christ are just ridiculous chicken and egg arguments all being quite circular in nature.
Why would jesus say that ?
Cause he was a human.
If he was human, how could he be god?
Round and round and round
a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.
interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.
the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.
For decades evangelicals have taught the ends days would come with some kind of Muslim Russian alliance would be forming to attack Israel. God protection depends on them turning to Christ.
With the recent events in the middle east and the Russians in Syria it has been a wonderful recruiting tool for the evangelical church. There is all kinds of mission work in Israel right now.
Not too be outdone the Wts has get over to convert them all so when Muslims Attack, it is an attack gods real christians , not the dirty jews.
When you invent a theology that basically replaces the jews with membership in the Wts. Well it's easier to try and convert an entire country than have the governing body admit they might have fucked up.
I think the average Israeli thinks the whole thing is an incredible nuisance.
I have had two ubers in our congregation go over. Literally two of the stupidest people you could ever meet.
i have always been told as a jw that trinitarians, particularly baptists, are just the worst people to argue with out in service.
i have always been told it was the world with a veil over their eyes.
the hypocritical irony is that so many witnesses are completely stubborn and willing to believe in magic before they believe anything against their dogma.
I am not really sure if the bible teaches a trinity but it diffinetly teaches an obscure bi unity or plurality of yaweh in the old and new testament. It is something that requires some serious study of reconciling the old and new testament.
I am not really sure why jws think they have such a home run on this subject. They hardly even scratch of the belief.
about two years ago i was challenged by a householder to do the research on the subject.
of course thinking it was all bunk i decided to take a look off the reservation.
much to my surprise a lot of started to make sense and i started to understand the connections between the old and new testament .
Wow
Jws aren't as far removed from trinitarian thinking as they really think.
i go to a hall (very rarely) with a single cong of about 60 people in a small city of maybe 10000. our board of elders is a bunch of childless weirdos or at least the ones that make an effort.. they recently changed the sunday meeting time from 10/12 to 1/ 3. a number of us are pissed off.
its makes to hard to drive to the city or go to a football game.. i just know the gestopo elders behind the change.
if your life isnt as miserable or pointless as theirs, they arent doing their job.
It's the fact it is only done by some bully elder to ruin your day. To prevent worldly pleasures.
It's like every in the religion is just to make life suck.
i go to a hall (very rarely) with a single cong of about 60 people in a small city of maybe 10000. our board of elders is a bunch of childless weirdos or at least the ones that make an effort.. they recently changed the sunday meeting time from 10/12 to 1/ 3. a number of us are pissed off.
its makes to hard to drive to the city or go to a football game.. i just know the gestopo elders behind the change.
if your life isnt as miserable or pointless as theirs, they arent doing their job.
We are only one congregation in the hall. It's been the same time for as long as I loved here.
i go to a hall (very rarely) with a single cong of about 60 people in a small city of maybe 10000. our board of elders is a bunch of childless weirdos or at least the ones that make an effort.. they recently changed the sunday meeting time from 10/12 to 1/ 3. a number of us are pissed off.
its makes to hard to drive to the city or go to a football game.. i just know the gestopo elders behind the change.
if your life isnt as miserable or pointless as theirs, they arent doing their job.
I go to a hall (very rarely) with a single cong of about 60 people in a small city of maybe 10000. Our board of elders is a bunch of childless weirdos or at least the ones that make an effort.
They recently changed the sunday meeting time from 10/12 to 1/ 3. A number of us are pissed off. Its makes to hard to drive to the city or go to a football game.
I just know the gestopo elders behind the change. If your life isnt as miserable or pointless as theirs, they arent doing their job. Its kind of a collective punishment for not being as hardcore as them. It bad enough they take saturday away, now they want your entire sunday.
Rant over
i have a wife that literally cleans the house 24 7. it's hard on our marriage, our son has no natural affection for her.
if we go to an assembly she literally spends two days waxing and polishing the car.
she hand washes all the clothes before go into the washing machine because no machine could ever do as good a job as her.
The one that really pissed me off was this years springs cleaning of the kingdom hall. They set an entire day a side to go over safety. The wts produced there own booklet on safety. Like something they wrote would replace ohs standards since they are above worldy laws.
Then you get 50 people show up to do the work of five. Then everyone start to trip over each other so the elders go for coffee leaving a bunch of women working who had to find childcare to be there.
Assholes
i have a wife that literally cleans the house 24 7. it's hard on our marriage, our son has no natural affection for her.
if we go to an assembly she literally spends two days waxing and polishing the car.
she hand washes all the clothes before go into the washing machine because no machine could ever do as good a job as her.
I have a wife that literally cleans the house 24 7. It's hard on our marriage, our son has no natural affection for her. If we go to an assembly she literally spends two days waxing and polishing the car. She hand washes all the clothes before go into the washing machine because no machine could ever do as good a job as her.
It's no real secret that jws have a disproportionate amount of janitors in there ranks. They also stress how everything is unclean. Not lest of all there is the kingdom hall cleanings all the time. Ever see 50 people do the job of 3 , and take the same amount if time to get it done.
Just wondering if anyone else out there has to deal with this batshit behavior. I know it's not particularly a jw problem but the Wts really isn't a very constructive place for people with cleaning phobias.
about two years ago i was challenged by a householder to do the research on the subject.
of course thinking it was all bunk i decided to take a look off the reservation.
much to my surprise a lot of started to make sense and i started to understand the connections between the old and new testament .
The reason I started this thread was i just finished reading a book called the two powers in heaven. In the old testament there seems to be a real obscuring between of the identity of jehovah, the angel of jehovah and the word of jehovah.
It also deals with the idea of what new testament writers thought Christ was. The visible image of the invisible God, no one has seen the father only the son. It's all based on the old testament.
The reason the subject is so interesting to me is when you meet a jw they call themselves the truth and give you this song and dance about the evil trinity.
There actually is somewhat of a case for the bi unity of god.
