after many years of objecting to the wt teachings on many levels, blood being one of them, i recently started to wonder (ok, i am slow!
) : what exactly does the wt think that the early non jewish christians were abstaining from in the blood abstention bit.
while i understand the context of the request that the apostle sent to the brothers, i do not understand what jws think they were abstaining from.. meat slaughtered improperly?.
I read a commentary about Acts 15 chapter once saying the whole abstain from blood, sacrifices to idols and adultery was about gentile Christians to avoid Roman pagan festivals. Everyone drinking blood, toasting zues and later having an orgy.
That's it. That's all its about.
Translating that into denying your child or yourself medical care takes a special type of stupid. You literally would have to have the same moral compass of an abortion doctor or serial killer.
and if the name jehovah is that important why is it that jesus christ never use that name in a record of scriptures?.
There is plurality to God in the old testament. One being the essence and power and one being seen and dealt with. No one can see God but obviously people did see God.
Paul calls jesus the visible image of the invisible God.
John says no on has seen the father only the son
Jesus in the old testament Co existed with God as jehovah in the old testament. In the new testament jesus to God as father. It's the god head.
anyone reading [or did read] the bible without someone else telling you what it meant?.
would you be leaning towards the jws or baptists or lutherans or what?.
just asking.
Baker
I use to live in a town of 1000 people that was 20 percent exclusive brethren. Imagine the most Uber jehovah witness you know times ten. Strange ducks.
They actually owned a number of businesses in the communities and each one would have two coffee rooms so they wouldn't have to eat with the unbelievers.
I actually took my son out ice skating at an outdoor rink on the edge of town which I believed was the communities. Later two very stern men dressed in black showed up and asked us to leave. The ice belonged to the brethren church.
Also knew this couple new to the community and were looking for a church. So one Sunday morning they just walked into the brethren church and 150 heads turned and two very stern looking men asked them to leave. It's was a very creepy experience for them.
anyone reading [or did read] the bible without someone else telling you what it meant?.
would you be leaning towards the jws or baptists or lutherans or what?.
just asking.
I have a cousin and an uncle who both have Bachelors of the theological studies from very liberal and secular universities before heading to bible school and becoming pastors.
They have told me there is some very common misconceptions in the bible.
1. It's not easy to understand
2. Large parts aren't very nice.
3 It's not all about Jesus.
4. Large portions are open for interpretation , especially Daniel and Revelations.
5. Any group that builds core dogma around revelations is dangerous or claims they know what it all means.
6.Studying scripture academically doesn't make you a Christian but it is important to know you are talking about.
7. Differences of opinion over minor dogma is alright.
8. The WTS is laughable in academic circles and dangerous in evangelical ones.
It's really fun to talk bible with trained professionals despite what you believe about the Bible.
https://youtu.be/1smqa78fy3y.
we all have our own journeys out of the wts and each person has a different trigger point.
if you watch this video from about the 22 min to 32 min , its something a person cant unseen.. i know the average jw doesnt care about the bible but for the odd one that is sincere, this might be a great seed to plant..
I always thought it was strange that somehow using the name jehovah somehow made us the true christians but never really an arguement against it.
Now i realize what the bible was really talking about using the term .....using the name of god......
I also now realize why everyone died at the end of the first Indiania Jones movie.
the wts has always included minors and adults in the same categories - publisher and baptized.. i am interested in knowing how many minors, approximately, are included in the publisher count.
and, at what age a person started publishing.
what age was the youngest publisher reported?.
I have seen 4 and 5 year olds counted prior to a CO visit. Its a great way to get the numbers up.
https://youtu.be/1smqa78fy3y.
we all have our own journeys out of the wts and each person has a different trigger point.
if you watch this video from about the 22 min to 32 min , its something a person cant unseen.. i know the average jw doesnt care about the bible but for the odd one that is sincere, this might be a great seed to plant..
We all have our own journeys out of the WTS and each person has a different trigger point. If you watch this video from about the 22 min to 32 min , its something a person cant unseen.
I know the average jw doesnt care about the bible but for the odd one that is sincere, this might be a great seed to plant.
below is an example of the pure cliche driven and meaningless posts by witnesses to witnesses on facebook .
it was truly a blessing from jehovah that your original plans .....didn't work out, because instead our family was able to enjoy a spiritually filled morning with ,spiritual food and spiritual entertainment and singing praises to our glorious god, grand creator and loving heavenly father jehovah was a memorable gift.
he has truly provided a perfect example of christian brotherly love through his son, our savior jesus christ.
I find it really scary how nothing taught in the hall even comes close to something taught in a church or a theological university class yet they called it Spiritual food.
Is it just me or are they literally moving in the direction of just nutty watchtower things week after week. To me it is just
Nulite
Gb worship
Dangers of ex members
Last days
False religion
Blah blah blah
How does any with half a brain take this seriously
has anyone noticed the wt's most recent shell-game revisionism in the november study tractazine, relating to the shifting of its "babylonish captivity" doctrine, from a 3 1/2-year period around the ww 1 years, to a period now spanning about 16 centuries, or from the 4th century (constantine's legal recognition of christianity) to 1919?.
Isn't it amazing how complex and twisted their literature is , it really always comes back to the fact they just anointed themselves. It all as silly as the book of Mormon.
Plus it kind of antisemitic how they replace the Jewish people with themselves.
has anyone found any religion that makes more sense than the watchtower organization?
obviously catholics make even less sense than them so don't say that.... the reason i ask is because i still believe the bible is the word of god, but just that the jw's have twisted it for their own benefit, as most religions seem to do....
Start studying the bible from a purely academic stance from scholars like Daniel B Wallace and Michael S Heiser. Something you would actually found taught in a school of Christian theology in a secular university. Try and understand the new testament though first century Jewish eyes. I think you would be surprised how interesting it all is and also how incredibly stupid WTS theology is.
Also don't confuse ex-witness as ex Christians either. They were trying to disprove the bible as JWs and really aren't that far removed as ex Jws, complete with the hated filled arrogance they had as JWs.
