Posts by LongGone

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How many here turned Athiest or did not and why??

by Witness 007 in

me i slowly came to see religion was a crutch we use to dream of a better "afterlife"....i feel half my life was wasted building an organisation that had no criminal mastermind behind it...just alot of mislead people looking for leadership.

if your still religious explain why..

LongGone

When I first left, I became nondenominational "generic" Christian, back when I still thought that was something someone could really ever be.

Then, a friend challenged me to read the Bible again, but from the perspective that I was learning about this deity for the very first time. I accepted that challenge and only made it through chapter eleven of Genesis by sheer force of will. I was already atheist by the end of chapter nine.

I tend to think deeply about the why of my own internal processes and I have eventually arrived at this explanation:

If any deity is reality who has sufficient power to accomplish its intentions and who also intends for all humans to know it is reality, then, every human would already know that specific deity is reality, no theists (of any variety) would be killing any other humans over which deity is reality, no theist would see any need to advocate for such a deity, and I couldn't be atheist.

Therefore, observable reality confirms conclusively that at least no deity is reality in whom those two deity specifications coexist.

This obviously doesn't prevent any other propositions of deity, but does eliminate many already proposed deities from consideration as possibly being anything other than fictions. Any other propositions would need to be accompanied by explanation why the proposed deity ought to be regarded as reality rather than fiction, and why the proposed deity ought to be regarded as deity.

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X-Mass card returned

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

yesterday i had a x-mass card returned to me as it was undelivered from the usa ,obviously someone has moved and re-located ?

i hope that`s all it is.

long-gone?

LongGone

Lol! I don't think so, smiddy3, I've never gotten a Christmas card from anyone on this forum unless they also happen to work for my primary client based in Hialeah, FL (USA). The chances of that are remote.

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Introduction: POMO Ex-JW w/ Late-Life Diagnosis Autism

by LongGone in

jw
friends

i'm longgone.

i was raised as a jw and i was in the "religion" for three decades.

i was an ex-jw for five years before i started to no longer even regard myself as an ex-jw, just as a person.

LongGone

Hi, everyone. I'm LongGone. I was raised as a JW and I was in the "religion" for three decades. I was an ex-JW for five years before I started to no longer even regard myself as an ex-JW, just as a person. I was diagnosed as autistic three years ago, at age 46, which explained a lot. I've been in therapy for four years now.

On the advice of my regular therapist, it was recently suggested that I switch to a trauma therapy specialist, specifically, a religious and early childhood trauma specialist. After just a few sessions it became very apparent to me that I am still an ex-JW and that I am still being heavily affected by ways of thinking I was exposed to over time as a JW, especially in my developmental years.

I'm hoping it might help to connect with a group of people who are either ex-JWs or who are still JWs as I work through some of these things. Nobody really understands it who didn't live it.

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May 2022 Study Watchtower - FAKE prophecy again for JW's

by BoogerMan in

may 2022 study watchtower page 6, par.

5 “satan instigated an attack on the anointed brothers who were taking the lead in the kingdom-preaching work.

prominent ones among them were the figurative “two witnesses” spoken of as being killed.”.

LongGone

The League of Nations was not founded until 1920.

The Wild Beast was not identified as the League of Nations until N.H. Knorr "prophesied" the United Nations arising, pursuant to widespread news reports that this was in the works and was soon going to happen.

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Why do you call yourselves "apostates?"

by Marbles in

well let me clarify the question.

i know you call yourselves apostates because the bible defines people who leave their previously held beliefs as apostates.

my question means, if the bible is not true (and i don't think it is) then there is no such thing as an apostate.i have never been a jw, only a bible student with them.

LongGone

... the Bible defines people who leave their previously held beliefs as apostates.

It is the English language that defines "apostate" rather than the Bible. The Bible nowhere defines that word.

When writing about Jehovah's Witnesses, I find it necessary to specify (c)lergy, (l)aity, and (r)eligion, because the various contexts are different from one another.

I have never been a JW, only a Bible student with them.

I understand. Interestingly, J.F. Rutherford apostatized all Jehovah's Witnesses(c,l) (the ones who followed after his teachings) from the Bible Students who continued to adhere to the teachings of C.T. Russell.

The reason I refer to myself as an apostate in relationship to Jehovah's Witnesses(r) is because I used to believe that was a source of truth and I adhered to it as such, but now, I do not and I actively work against the interests of JW(r) and JW(c).

... from an outsider's point of view (mine anyway) it looks like the equivalent of calling yourself a racial slur, or some really profane word, actually.

That's reasonable, and in a way you are correct. However, when we own as badges of honor and esteem the very labels that others would use to offend us and malign us, we lessen or void the power of those labels to do us harm and frustrate the intentions of those who deliberately hope to shame and scorn us.

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The "Assyrian", the "seven shepherds", the "eight dukes"

by bats in the belfry in

.. .. .. .

will become whatever the wtbts needs them to become.. .. once upon a time they said this:.

1943 the watchtower, april 15, page 124.

LongGone

And now, up pops "the Assyrian" again. I found this thread by doing a Google search for "the Assyrian Jehovah's Witnesses" ... trying to figure out what eschatological drums they are beating now.