Posts by Jehalapeno

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All 2016 Convention videos in English and all Talk outlines for download

by Watchtower-Free in

all convention videos in english and all talk outlines for download.

http://avoidjw.org/2016-regional-convention/

Jehalapeno

If someone were to propose this as an actual plausible scenario, they would be placed in a padded room

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Giant Earthworm Debunks Jehovah's Witnesses Theological Teachings

by jwleaks in

bizarre, yes but consider this .... .

link (story unrelated to op): http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-25/council-protects-gippsland-giant-earthworm-habitat/7444228?wt.

this giant earthworm, unique to gippsland, australia, poses a potential problem to the doctrinal teachings of jehovah's witnesses.

Jehalapeno

Not just a teaching of the JW's, but it presents a problem for all that believe in a literal interpretation of the flood myth.

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Humans only been here 6,000 years but at least they were drunk!

by notsurewheretogo in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-36365967.

great article...chinese were brewing beer 5,000 years ago.... not bad considering it's not far off adam & eve... :).

.. .. chinese drinkers may have been brewing beer as many as 5,000 years ago, new research suggests.. us and chinese researchers say they found traces of barley, millet, grain, and tubers used in fermentation.. it was found on pottery discovered in shaanxi province in northern china during an archaeological dig 10 years ago.. it would be the earliest known instance of beer-making in china and suggest a sophisticated approach.. published in the us proceedings of the national academy of sciences, the study also suggested that barley may have been used for booze before being used for food.. as every home-brewer knows, funnels are an essential piece of kit.

Jehalapeno

These are lies planted by the adversary Satan the Devil. /s

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2016 Regional Convention - Sunday Morning synopsis

by Jehalapeno in

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via reddit.

here are the morning program highlights.

will update for the afternoon once it's all over.

Jehalapeno

Via Reddit

Here are the morning program highlights. Will update for the afternoon once it's all over.
Avoid what erodes loyalty: Pride - Bro. Cano (elder) reflects on reasons for why he got upset for receiving counsel on how to give a talk. Loyalty to Jehovah implies having to change one's attitude and striving to be humble. (Video) We should be also be humble and do work we might look down upon, like cleaning the Kingdom Hall bathrooms. (Because everyone knows elders do this as frequently as they do shepherding)
Avoid what erodes loyalty: Improper entertainment - Avoid violent video games & movies, immoral films including pornography. Video = JW (Javier) started watching/viewing immoral content through his smartphone, rationalizing that it wasn't technically pornography. Later realized he was fooling himself and stopped.
Avoid what erodes loyalty: Bad associations - We don't want to shun brothers who are not DF'd. But we do want to limit our association with those who only want to criticize the brothers, talk about materialistic things. In essence, stay away from anyone who is a danger to your spirituality. Video = JW sister reflects on realizing when her coffee breaks with her co-workers with "bad attitudes" and inappropriate conversations were affecting her and her relationship with her family. (This video, and the one before it, were preludes to the bunker video. Towards the end of this video, they pan out (with ominous music) and make it evident that these conversations were taking place in the bunker during the great tribulation. At the end, they even include a special knock on the door to identify that other JW's are the ones knocking to get in. They report that another person, Kevin (possibly JW or study), refused to go with them and that they were "on their own".)
Avoid what erodes loyalty: Fear of man - Video = Bunker brothers reflect back on Kevin's reasons/motives, for not wanting to come with them. They make Kevin out to be a "spiritually weak" brother who was afraid to preach to others. They reason he never overcame his "fear of man". Video ends with another JW coming to the bunker reporting that things are getting worse outside, with the authorities starting to visit houses to "register" them.
Pursue what builds loyalty: Appreciation - "The fact that so much good is done with imperfect men is a reason to appreciate and worship Jehovah." Video - Bunker brothers reflect on brothers who always criticized what the organization did and didn't do. They eventually left the meetings because they didn't fully appreciate what the org was doing. They didn't stay "loyal" to the org. (Video is another attempt to vilify anyone who doesn't say only good things about the org)
Pursue what builds loyalty: Self control - Video = Bunker brothers, specifically the daughter of one of the families, reflects on earlier times when she had difficulties with her thoughts that kept her down mentally and emotionally. Remembers that one of the other bunker brothers (Karen) helped her overcome her negative thoughts. Loyalty to Jehovah entails getting control of our negative thoughts. At the end of the video, more JW's arrive at the bunker.
Pursue what builds loyalty: Love - "Being loyal to family is being loyal to Jehovah." (Talk about double-speak when it comes to DF'd relatives). Video - This is where they show the leaked bunker video where they stress the importance of simplifying.
Pursue what builds loyalty: Faith - Video = Bunker brothers again. Great tribulation getting worse. You can hear people outside looking specifically for JW's. Bunker brothers taking comfort in scriptures. Patting themselves on the back for having listened and staying loyal. Reflecting on all the different ways they stayed loyal (what they showed in the previous videos). Authorities finally break into their bunker in the end and close in on them as they gather together and stand firm, ready for whatever awaits them.
Public discourse & WT Review - (Zoned out for these talks. Took a mental break due to the over abundance of indoctrination in the morning already.)
Attendance for Sunday AM: 15902
Stay tuned for the afternoon highlights later...

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New Feature on JW Library

by neat blue dog in

there are a couple new tabs on the app, one of which is the 'meetings' tab.

can you guess what the other one is?.

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Jehalapeno

Why is this surprising?

It's not out of character for the organization. Everyone knows they run on donations.

(Don't mind me...just using same logic that others used about not being surprised at the homophobic cartoon.)

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

Jehalapeno

It's a weird moment when I agree with Slimboyfat over Cofty.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

Jehalapeno

Simon you just said that the video isn't awful.

Surely you're just referring to the quality of the animation. Because the message that "God doesn't let gays into paradise," although in line with what the bible says, is an awful awful message.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

Jehalapeno

Homophobia has become a catch-all term for the LGBTQ community equivalent of racism.

It would be hard for someone to argue that the above statements were not racist statements.

The same can be said for the video. It is sugar coated homophobia.

Anyone saying the video wasn't homophobia either hasn't thought about it much, hasn't put themselves in the shoes of those that are homosexuals, or they still hold a personal prejudice themselves against the LGBTQ community.

Just because it is someone's religious right to believe something ignorant and prejudicial does not give them freedom from criticism.

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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe

by Perry in

the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.

Jehalapeno

This is for you Perry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjOFqy91SPA

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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe

by Perry in

the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.

Jehalapeno

Perry: I suggest perusing the Armored Skeptic YouTube channel. All your points have been refuted over and over on there.

Also: it's okay to say I don't know when confronted with a question. What's not okay is to assume the answer is something there's no evidence for.