Posts by Ireneus

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How did they live with themselves?

by eyeuse2badub in

how do you think they lived with themselves?.

how do you think that the israelite soldiers that were ordered by king david to take uriah to the front lines and then retreat behind him so the enemy could slaughter him live after that event?

were they okay and at peace?.

Ireneus

They had no problem because they were worshipping a fictitious God who commanded Abraham to slaughter his only child.

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How were God’s true worshipers to determine virginity of pagan girls?

by Ireneus in

in the genocidal instructions supposedly given by god we find this interesting command: “now kill all the boys.

and kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” (numbers 31:17, 18).

in the midst of killing and plundering, how were the israelites to determine whether each girl “has slept with a man” or not?.

Ireneus

TheFadingAlbatros,

I can't believe someone dared to explain this portion!

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How were God’s true worshipers to determine virginity of pagan girls?

by Ireneus in

in the genocidal instructions supposedly given by god we find this interesting command: “now kill all the boys.

and kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” (numbers 31:17, 18).

in the midst of killing and plundering, how were the israelites to determine whether each girl “has slept with a man” or not?.

Ireneus

Bible is guilty of violating ts own commandment: ‘Don’t speak many words because you will unavoidably commit sin, but restrain your lips.” (Proverb 10:19)

How nice it would have been if Bible were too succinct and simple as triple filter of Socretes who said: “Ask three questions before speaking (which equally applies to acting also):

(1) Does what I’m about to say show Truth?

(2) Does it show Goodness? and

(3) Does it show Usefulness or Beauty?

If not, don’t speak [or do it].

With these three simple verses, Bible might have been completed!

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How were God’s true worshipers to determine virginity of pagan girls?

by Ireneus in

in the genocidal instructions supposedly given by god we find this interesting command: “now kill all the boys.

and kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” (numbers 31:17, 18).

in the midst of killing and plundering, how were the israelites to determine whether each girl “has slept with a man” or not?.

In the genocidal instructions supposedly given by God we find this interesting command: “Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” (Numbers 31:17, 18)

In the midst of killing and plundering, how were the Israelites to determine whether each girl “has slept with a man” or not?

Interestingly, God declares, through Jesus, that He had not made any such commands (John 8:28; Mathew 5:28) which means they were all Israelites’ own claim.

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Independent reading of Bible results in better understanding

by Ireneus in

in guided reading, you tend to get the understanding of the guide.

what if guide is blind?

religious leaders who understand ‘one innocent man should be killed to atone the sins of others are in bondage to darkness, hence there is nothing good to be expected from them.

Ireneus

Beth Sam,

What you said is a great truth.

If we take all scriptures to be figurative, it makes sense; and there is peace.

If we take them all literally, we are sowing the seeds for contention and conflict.

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Independent reading of Bible results in better understanding

by Ireneus in

in guided reading, you tend to get the understanding of the guide.

what if guide is blind?

religious leaders who understand ‘one innocent man should be killed to atone the sins of others are in bondage to darkness, hence there is nothing good to be expected from them.

Ireneus

When children can understand hard stuff like quantum mechanics and make practical application, why do they need help to understand Bible?

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Independent reading of Bible results in better understanding

by Ireneus in

in guided reading, you tend to get the understanding of the guide.

what if guide is blind?

religious leaders who understand ‘one innocent man should be killed to atone the sins of others are in bondage to darkness, hence there is nothing good to be expected from them.

Ireneus

In guided reading, you tend to get the understanding of the guide. What if guide is blind? Religious leaders who understand ‘one innocent man should be killed to atone the sins of others are in bondage to darkness, hence there is nothing good to be expected from them. In other parts of the world, religious leaders discriminate between sex, caste...etc which is another type of bondage to darkness. Hence, if one wants to understand scriptures, he must read it unguided, independently. This is how I go about:

1)If I add both good and bad I am producing waste. Tree is symbol of production/reproduction, hence "tree of good and bad" (Gen 2:16) and eating of it (Gen 3:1-5) would mean humanity (original Hebrew word is Adam) chose a path of wastefulness after leading a perfect life on a perfect earth for a sufficiently long period. Hence what we find is the wasted earth, not the original, perfect earth. I have found this fact: What happens to my body is the manifestation of what is going on in my inner world—mind, and similarly, thought pattern of individuals collective changed the ecosystem of earth after humans changed from path of perfection to path of wastefulness. And if thought pattern of individuals collective returns to the original mode the ecosystem of earth would also be restored.

2)When it is reported ‘supply of wine is finished’ during a wedding at Cana in Galilee, response of Jesus (one of the invitees) was “What does this have to do with me?” (John 2:4) This shows God is non-interventionist. John’s gospel says Jesus performed a miracle of turning the water into wine which is gospel writer’s own imagination, proof of which lies in the verse 2:11 which says ‘this was the first of all miracles Jesus performed.’ If this was the first miracle, all other gospels written earlier than this gospel would have no reason to forget the “first” miracle. God needs to intervene only when humans succeed in transforming the earth into total wastefulness through things such as pollution, war …etc

3)Revelation book confirms that earth would become wasted, and would be renewed subsequently (Rev 11:18; 21:1-5) which was the main theme of Jesus’ preaching. (Mathew 19:28)

To understand such a simple thing as above, why is an organization needed?

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Nuns report abuse by Priests. Holy moly.

by James Mixon in

article today, "i pretended it didn't happen": nuns report abuse by priests.

by nicole winfield and rodney muttumuza__associated press.

i always heard stories about the nuns but holy crap, it's bad.nuns were considered "safe" sexual partners for priests (africa and aids) who feared they might be infected with hiv if they went to prostitutes.

Ireneus

Now it is becoming like a wildfire:

Cardinal engaging in sexual abuse with minors for decades (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/28/world/europe/cardinal-theodore-mccarrick-resigns.html)

Bishop raping the nun in multiple occasions (https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/nun-accuses-kerala-bishop-of-sexual-abuse-4-years-ago/story-ICfukFv6Ty77wHvCaTBBGP.html)

Five priests enjoyed sex with a woman misusing the information received from the holy institution of confession. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF2B9VkX0nE)

They do all these things because they obviously believe deep in their heart that there is no God. This shows man-made scriptures cannot ensure morality even on the religious leaders, yet we find many lay men leading a moral life wth no difficulty.

Even bird Robin can navigate straight without the help of any modern equipment.

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Is the Earth really that great?

by DATA-DOG in

i enjoy watching nature documentaries; david attenborough being my favorite host and narrator.

that being said, i’ve come to the conclusion that contrary to xianity’s teaching, the earth is not “perfectly placed/designed for life.” .

when you actually observe the world at large, without blinders, it’s a wonder that life even exists.

Ireneus

Finkelstein,

You are asking “What happens when lighting strikes a forest full of tress and they all burn to their destruction, and why disease-causing viruses?”

Whether it is good or hurt, they come from multiple sources such as one’s own action, God’s over-all design of everything, and nature…etc.

If everyone is caring for each other, you will have perfect system of things on earth resembling heaven, with perfect climate with no such things as harmful lightening ..etc

If everyone is self-serving, you will have just opposite type of system things on earth resembling hell.

If people are mixed, then you will have another system of things befitting such a mixture.

Connection between our thinking pattern and responses of nature are becoming more pronounced these days. We destroyed the perfection of nature with our greed; we designed vehicles and factories with their toxinating pipes on to the air we breathe and water we drink. Human body is a micro universe and we see our bodies reacting according to the quality of our thoughts. Similarly thoughts of all human beings will have corresponding effects on the environment outside because both human bodies and nature outside are made with same physical elements. You can deduct these thoughts from this article. (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-can-now-blame-individual-natural-disasters-on-climate-change/) In addition, climate change is now known to be increasing the cases of diabetes and other diseases.

Similar is the case with micro organisms causing diseases. We simply blame them. We are not bothered to find out why some doctors and nurses get affected by the viruses from the patients they treat and other doctors and nurses do not get affected by them. Viruses multiply in favorable environment. What makes favorable environment in some humans and unfavorable in other humans? It is obviously their habit. Why can’t such habits be made mandatory in every country like tax laws are mandatory which make provision to recover your any property in case of violation.

Micro organisms work to remove the wastes from the earth, and if wastes are found in human bodies they will find favorable atmosphere there to multiply themselves bringing the condition we call dis-ease.

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Is the Earth really that great?

by DATA-DOG in

i enjoy watching nature documentaries; david attenborough being my favorite host and narrator.

that being said, i’ve come to the conclusion that contrary to xianity’s teaching, the earth is not “perfectly placed/designed for life.” .

when you actually observe the world at large, without blinders, it’s a wonder that life even exists.

Ireneus

I disagree:

If you add both good and bad you are producing waste. Tree is symbol of production/reproduction, hence "tree of good and bad" would mean humanity (original Hebrew word is Adam) chose a path of wastefulness after leading a perfect life on a perfect earth for a sufficiently long period. Hence what we find is the wasted earth, not the original, perfect earth. Because what happens to your body is the manifestation of what is going on in your internal world--mind, and similarly, earth too would change after humans change their paths on to wastefulness.

For example, last year during my vacation time I purchased one German Shepherd when it was a baby, and I fed it for less than two months, and returned to my College. After one year again when I visited my family, when I got down from the taxi itself, this now-gown up dog was trying to break its chain to come towards me to show its love. My dad released the dog, it came running towards me, stood up with both the hands on my shoulders--with my nose touching its nose. What a deep expression of affection from a dog just because I cared for it one year back, when it was a baby!

If humanity had done the same with all the other animals, we would not have had carnivorous ones, all--humans and animals--would have lived as one family. Even carnivorous one, if it is removed from its community when it is a baby and allowed to grow with lambs, it will return to lamb's nature.

But humanity's purpose is changed! We started the sports called hunting the animals, began eating them. Our purpose is to accumulate exceedingly to create privation in others, and enjoy seeing others suffering. (https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eight-richest-people-have-same-wealth-as-poorest-50)

Following such mentality is what eating from "tree of good and bad" means.