Posts by Ireneus

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Imperfection is the charm of life, not a curse

by Ireneus in

there is no charm in going to a cricket match after knowing the result.

similarly, there is no charm in living if there is nothing left to know.

we are surrounded by both—knowledge and mystery.

Charles Gillette

Even if you discard my Biblical references (which are only supplementary in nature) you still can reach the same conclusion through quantum mechanics and imperfect theorem ...etc.

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Imperfection is the charm of life, not a curse

by Ireneus in

there is no charm in going to a cricket match after knowing the result.

similarly, there is no charm in living if there is nothing left to know.

we are surrounded by both—knowledge and mystery.

Ireneus

Religions and their varied forms of worship is not at all a concern for God. That is why all the prophets avoided the subjects of worship from their topics. (Mathew 7:12)

Jesus said judgment is on the basis of how humane one was while dealing with others (Mathew 25:31-46)

Spirit of what I wrote is this: In imperfection, you feel the need of working for perfection. During summer we wish for rainy season, and vice versa. In paradise, we wish for capitalism. When the capitalism shows its ugly face with polluted earth and climate being thrown out of balance, we wish for paradise, and vice versa.

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Imperfection is the charm of life, not a curse

by Ireneus in

there is no charm in going to a cricket match after knowing the result.

similarly, there is no charm in living if there is nothing left to know.

we are surrounded by both—knowledge and mystery.

Ireneus

There is no charm in going to a cricket match after knowing the result. Similarly, there is no charm in living if there is nothing left to know. We are surrounded by both—knowledge and mystery. If you believe in God, then you have the problem of explaining who created Him. If you believe in materialism, you have the same problem of explaining what caused Big Bang, how energy turned into particles, how laws come into existence to govern various particle formations—inanimate and animate and all laws that enable life to be sustained with abundant provisions for the enjoyment of life. It is this mystery that makes you curious to know more and more and even to seek perfection, which makes life interesting. Thus imperfection is the charm of life, not a curse.

We also find another similar situation in which we find certain things as constant and certain things as transient. Take the case of trees—the silent food factories. The visible aspects of them are very familiar to us—birth, growth and death; yet the invisible programme that ensures the seed that contains in it the memory of all its future generations capable of perfectly copying all the features is constant. Thus everything is a play of what is constant and what is transient—something we can see everywhere—in micro universe and macro universe; and play of perfection and imperfection.

Similar thoughts came to my mind when I was trying to understand Kurt Godel’s Imperfect Theorem. His findings led him to make this interesting conclusion: “Our total reality and total existence are beautiful and meaningful . . . . We should judge reality by the little which we truly know of it. Since that part which conceptually we know fully turns out to be so beautiful, the real world of which we know so little should also be beautiful.” That means perfection and beauty exist somewhere which can elevate us into such perfection and beauty if we want to. Various cultures (prominent among them is the Bible) show that history had a perfect start. Genesis chapter 1 shows mankind was in God’s image for some time, and later they moved to the second phase of mixing perfection (“good”) with imperfection (“evil” or absence of good), thus becoming like “trees of knowledge of good and evil.” In other words, new system of things began to move into the process of becoming old. What has become old can be “renewed” by the Creator, says keenly insightful ones like Jesus. (Mathew 19:28) Otherwise system of things will plunge into a bottomless pit of decline which would not be permitted because of the very fact this was brought into existence by some Supreme Mind operating on it with some purpose. What is true of macro is true of micro too, and vice versa. Take our own case. My body (matter) was made into this shape because of some power other than matter was acting behind it because “in materialism all elements behave the same. It is mysterious to think of them as spread out and automatically united. For something to be a whole, it has to have an additional object, say, a soul or a mind,” says Mathematics legend Kurt Godel in his biography A Logical Journey, written by Hao Wang 9.4.12)

There are others too who are convinced of this. Nobel Laureate Max Planck [Father of Quantum Theory, also called Father of modern physics] said: “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.”(The Observer, 25 January 1931) Richard Conn Henry, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, in his article“The Mental Universe” (Nature, International Journal of Science, July 07, 2005) quoted Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans as saying: “Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter.” Thus soul is the eternal and invisible reality that builds the ephemeral and visible reality called body, which explains why we have a subjective experience. Just like new body is created by soul, new system of things would be created by the Supreme Soul on earth when present system of things becomes too decadent. Only those who were humane in their dealings with one another (not on the basis of which God they worshipped) would benefit from this new world (Mathew 25:31-46).

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God and the afterlife. Do you need to believe in both

by moley in

i consider myself an atheist, i completely reject the idea of a totalitarian desert god/any god and the bible is a book of fairytales and folk legends.. i do however sort of believe that this life is not all there is.

i’m not talking about heaven or hell but in a tangible state of being.. there are a few experiences i’ve had in my llife.

could be imagined could be real.

Ireneus

For those who are deep into Mathematics, perceiving a soul having existence independent of body is not a difficult task. Thoughts, recordings (memories), dreams …etc do not originate in the brain which is like a machine made of parts, says the great Mathematics legend Kurt Godel says in his biography, and then he makes this conclusion: “The brain is a computing machine connected with a spirit. Consciousness is connected with one unity. A machine is composed of part. In materialism all elements behave the same. It is mysterious to think of them as spread out and automatically united. For something to be a whole, it has to have an additional object, say, a soul or a mind.” (A Logical Journey, written by Hao Wang, 6.1.19, 21; 9.4.12)

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Has God preserved His word today?

by JW Answers in

has god preserved his word today?

many people attack, doubt and fault god's word.

yet god has made several promises in his word.he promised to preserve his word unto every generation,he promised that every word would be truth,he promised that we can rely and depend on his every word.satan wants nothing more than to dismiss, and cast doubt on god's word... so the question today is... do we have god's preserved word today?

Ireneus

Bible writer himself admitted some untruths contained in the Bible. (Jsremaiah 8:8)

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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.

by smiddy3 in

when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

no communication systems operating .

Ireneus

Some Bible prophecies could be true.

https://aliveafterthefall.com/nht_v52c/front-ctrl.php?param1=nht_v52c&hop=ranu1997

Preaching--not a God-ordained work

by Ireneus in

1) when christians tried preaching in india, they were surprised to see mr. m. k. gandhi, leader of the freedom struggle, already practicing the very essence of bible.. 2) swami vivekananda (the star campaigner of hinduism) got a shock of his life when he met a christian boy already practicing the very essence of hinduism when he was on a foreign tour.

vivekananda purchased one kilogram of apple from a shop and started walking with it.

a boy who was following him stopped him and wanted to repurchase the apple, offering the double amount.

Ireneus

1) When Christians tried preaching in India, they were surprised to see Mr. M. K. Gandhi, leader of the freedom struggle, already practicing the very essence of Bible.

2) Swami Vivekananda (the Star Campaigner of Hinduism) got a shock of his life when he met a Christian boy already practicing the very essence of Hinduism when he was on a foreign tour. Vivekananda purchased one kilogram of apple from a shop and started walking with it. A boy who was following him stopped him and wanted to repurchase the apple, offering the double amount. When asked why, boy replied: “I saw the shopkeeper mixing spoiled apples also when you were busy talking to other customers. When you return to your country, I don’t want you to speak ill of our country.” Vivekananda promised he would not speak ill of his country because of the loft attitude the boy manifested. But he understood even little ones are endowed with moral sense which means preaching is not needed.

3) People are able to do what is right if they want to, hence Jesus declared that some chose to do what is good and others choose to do what is bad. (Mathew 12:35) Preaching would often not make any difference. (Revelation 22:11) This is why Jesus himself declared categorically that no preaching work is God-ordained. (Mathew 7:21-23) Learning from experience (own or of others) is the mechanism God has put in place. (Luke 6:38) This would either result in upward evolution of mankind or their downward evolution (in which case God can always “renew” what has become decadent.—Mathew 19:28)

This means all preaching references found in the Bible are later adoptions.

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Influence of Babylon the Great is only increasing

by Ireneus in

according to jw teaching, babylon the great is the name for all other religions except themselves and predicted its influence over governments would wane in the last days.

yet we find just opposite happening!.

we saw russian government acting against jws, we saw president trump’s swearing in ceremony where church official had central stage ….etc.. here is another sample!

Ireneus

That means Law of Attraction seems to be working in the case of JWs too. According to Law of Attraction, one attracts according to what he really is, what he is in his heart, not according to what he superficially wants.

JWs were saying all other religions would experience a 'drying up', and saying this repeatedly over the years, they attracted the same towards themselves--now it is they that experience 'drying up' with even major Branch offices being placed for sale.

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Interpretation often takes you away from truth

by Ireneus in

yesterday, my classmate was giving an example from her homeland on how people can give various interpretations which have nothing to do with truth.

though studying in the us, she was closely monitoring what was happening in kerala (a small southern state of india), her birth place.

last month saw unprecedent heavy rains wreaking widespread havoc in this small state with huge population (which is much more than australia’s population).

Ireneus

Vidiot

That’s no problem. It’s like Jesuit being given two meaning in Webster’s—“A member of the Society of Jesus,” and then a negative meaning “a crafty person” which we know it is false.

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Influence of Babylon the Great is only increasing

by Ireneus in

according to jw teaching, babylon the great is the name for all other religions except themselves and predicted its influence over governments would wane in the last days.

yet we find just opposite happening!.

we saw russian government acting against jws, we saw president trump’s swearing in ceremony where church official had central stage ….etc.. here is another sample!

Ireneus

Bungi Bill,

Yes,very true. Their 100 years of work has produced only a few thousand JWs in India with a population of over 1.3 billion--no drying at all. And even their India Branch office is placed for sale.