Honestly, for me it was never doctrinal. I just couldn't get down with the misogyny. The best option presented to women is to get married too young, have an unfulfilling sex life, not have kids, preach full-time, work a menial part-time job, and never develop my own talents. I never did believe it was the truth, but had their hatred of women not been so vitriolic I might have stayed for my family.
Cimarrona
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What was the biggest thing that convinced you that
by Ponyo in.....the truth was not the truth... ?
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Normal things you missed out on as a kid (besides holidays)
by Are you serious insince me and my siblings had to go to service every saturday, and i mean every saturday, i missed out on something so normal as watching good ole saturday morning cartoons from the 70's and 80's.
i remember wishing i could stay home just one saturday so i could watch cartoons.
but noooo we had to go save lives!
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Cimarrona
School dances
Sports
Shameless masturbation
Dating
Sex education
Mini skirts
Carefree sundays
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Explanation please on the change of the term "worldly"
by careful ini've picked up from several replies to posts here that the org has stopped using the term "worldly" as it applies to people.
this must have happened after i left.
would someone be so kind as to explain the "rationale" behind this shift?
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Cimarrona
It's use was definitely discouraged by the time I left, six years ago. I cannot remember if it was something explicitly mentioned in a publication. Nonetheless, I'm sure it had to do with how foolish they sounded by using it and so-called worldly people's mockery of the term.
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If the WTBTS Was Disbanded Tomorrow...
by Cimarrona inhow would the gb, do, co, bethelites, elders, pioneers, etc list their now-meaningless positions on their resume?
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Cimarrona
How would the GB, DO, CO, bethelites, elders, pioneers, etc list their now-meaningless positions on their resume?
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JWs + Chronic Illness
by Cimarrona ini once asked my dad why, with all the power the wt insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the adventists, wilderness training.
i mean, the gb encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related.
i'd say most witnesses i knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me).
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Cimarrona
@diogenesister awww thanks for the kind words <3 I do have writing published online but I'm not comfortable sharing links as I'm not too sure about revealing my identity. However, thank you most kindly, and I certainly agree with you!
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JWs - Liberals or Conservatives?
by neat blue dog inwhere they stand is a strange mixture.
yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .
but in many ways they're liberal.
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Cimarrona
The fundamental argument between conservatives and liberals is to what degree the federal government should weild power over the states. Liberals tend to be for "big government" - sweeping, national legislative reform to which all states are required to adhere as enforced by a monitoring agency (think: the Clean Power Act and the EPA or Housing Act of 1964 and HUD); while conservatives want to limit the power of the federal government and allow each state (read: the corporations that control state politics thru campaign contributions) to decide for themselves. Fiscal conservatives are rich mofos who want to tax income instead of assets (they couldn't give a fudge about religious ideals unless they can be manipulated to support business interests) and want to end New Deal era reforms. Social conservatives basically promote fundamentalist religious values.
All that's to say, neither. As far as the R&F is concerned, hypothetical political leanings are as diverse as those of the entire nation. Income, gender, race, ethnicity, location, education - all of these factor into political choices. It'd differ from region to region, city to city, congregation to congregation. They'd most likely mirror the statistics of the territory the congregation covers
The GB is most definitely conservative though.
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JWs + Chronic Illness
by Cimarrona ini once asked my dad why, with all the power the wt insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the adventists, wilderness training.
i mean, the gb encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related.
i'd say most witnesses i knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me).
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Cimarrona
I once asked my dad why, with all the power the WT insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the Adventists, wilderness training. I mean, the GB encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related. I'd say most witnesses I knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me). How were they supposed to get thru Armageddon like that. Why weren't resources provided to help them better their health. Besides prayers and "comforting" visits lol. His response was, "That would be too invasive." But it's not invasive for them to tell you to shun your child. Got it.
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Things I Cant Stand Since Leaving Watchtower
by pale.emperor inwhat a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.
now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.
little kids in suits.
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Cimarrona
Single men who know they're a minority and take that as license to treat women they call "sisters" like crap
Lunch with the CO and his wife
Standung in line to pick up literature
Preaching in any form
Singing those damn songs
Listening to those damn songs
Avoiding profanity
Reading about how a spirit without genitalia disapproves of oral sex
Constabtly lying to my parents about everything
Being a pompous ass
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Worst things said in talks available online
by usualusername1 inhiya peeps.
in my comedy routine i am keen to add some audio of the worst things jws have said in talks.
tight pants tony.
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Cimarrona
Omg. Send me the link to #3 please. I've never heard them say it directly though we all knew that's what they thought.
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Why "fancy dress" and "theme weddings" were BANNED by our Congregation!
by Witness 007 inour kingdom hall was in a boring town of 30,000 people so to spice things up me and some special pioneers living with us decided to have a fancy dress up party!
what could go wrong?
nice clean fun, and no booze (oh crap!).
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Cimarrona
In our city, we had themed parties fairly often. Some older sisters would even host formal "balls" every year or two. It was never a big deal. Some even had open bars. It's interesting to hear the differences. I assume they're primarily cultural and geographical.