Cimarrona

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  Pale.Emperor Meets A Born Again Christian

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  of all the religions out there one religion that's always filled me with exasperation was the born again christian belief system.

  to make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.. this idea that "im going to heaven, you're going to hell" is enough to make me not want to worship their god even if he did exist.

  but today i met two.

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  So sad that the only thing keeping the nice one from committing suicide is belief in some dude who, at best, is the compilation of several historical figures over millennia who exhibited admirable qualities, none of whom were gods son born of a virgin. and at worst is a complete fabrication.
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  No other religion is as guilty as JW religion—you know why?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all other religions have myths that show satan as inferior to god almighty.

  but only jw religion portrays satan more powerful than god through their teaching of “issue of sovereignty” which implies god almighty needs validation from satan as though he waits till satan is satisfied which has not happened even after killing of jesus 2000 years ago and things like ethnic cleansing, spilling of oceans of blood ….

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  I didn't know culpability existed along a spectrum. Either one is or ain't. Or perhaps we should move away from the punitive frameworks of guilt and shame altogether and deal solely with solutions to what is.

  Example: Borg doctrine lacks logic (what is). We left it, and some of us have conversations with those who are still in about why we chose to do so (solution).

  I mean, unless one still believes in some somehow-male-identified spirit in the sky to whom we all must answer, the Borg's supposed guilt is a non-issue.
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  What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

  by Ponyo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  .....the truth was not the truth... ?

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  Honestly, for me it was never doctrinal. I just couldn't get down with the misogyny. The best option presented to women is to get married too young, have an unfulfilling sex life, not have kids, preach full-time, work a menial part-time job, and never develop my own talents. I never did believe it was the truth, but had their hatred of women not been so vitriolic I might have stayed for my family.
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  Normal things you missed out on as a kid (besides holidays)

  by Are you serious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since me and my siblings had to go to service every saturday, and i mean every saturday, i missed out on something so normal as watching good ole saturday morning cartoons from the 70's and 80's.

  i remember wishing i could stay home just one saturday so i could watch cartoons.

  but noooo we had to go save lives!

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  School dances

  Sports

  Shameless masturbation

  Dating

  Sex education

  Mini skirts

  Carefree sundays
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  Explanation please on the change of the term "worldly"

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've picked up from several replies to posts here that the org has stopped using the term "worldly" as it applies to people.

  this must have happened after i left.

  would someone be so kind as to explain the "rationale" behind this shift?

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  It's use was definitely discouraged by the time I left, six years ago. I cannot remember if it was something explicitly mentioned in a publication. Nonetheless, I'm sure it had to do with how foolish they sounded by using it and so-called worldly people's mockery of the term.
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  If the WTBTS Was Disbanded Tomorrow...

  by Cimarrona in

  1. social
  2. humour

  how would the gb, do, co, bethelites, elders, pioneers, etc list their now-meaningless positions on their resume?

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  How would the GB, DO, CO, bethelites, elders, pioneers, etc list their now-meaningless positions on their resume?
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  JWs + Chronic Illness

  by Cimarrona in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i once asked my dad why, with all the power the wt insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the adventists, wilderness training.

  i mean, the gb encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related.

  i'd say most witnesses i knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me).

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  @diogenesister awww thanks for the kind words <3 I do have writing published online but I'm not comfortable sharing links as I'm not too sure about revealing my identity. However, thank you most kindly, and I certainly agree with you!
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  JWs - Liberals or Conservatives?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where they stand is a strange mixture.

  yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .

  but in many ways they're liberal.

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  The fundamental argument between conservatives and liberals is to what degree the federal government should weild power over the states. Liberals tend to be for "big government" - sweeping, national legislative reform to which all states are required to adhere as enforced by a monitoring agency (think: the Clean Power Act and the EPA or Housing Act of 1964 and HUD); while conservatives want to limit the power of the federal government and allow each state (read: the corporations that control state politics thru campaign contributions) to decide for themselves. Fiscal conservatives are rich mofos who want to tax income instead of assets (they couldn't give a fudge about religious ideals unless they can be manipulated to support business interests) and want to end New Deal era reforms. Social conservatives basically promote fundamentalist religious values.

  All that's to say, neither. As far as the R&F is concerned, hypothetical political leanings are as diverse as those of the entire nation. Income, gender, race, ethnicity, location, education - all of these factor into political choices. It'd differ from region to region, city to city, congregation to congregation. They'd most likely mirror the statistics of the territory the congregation covers

  The GB is most definitely conservative though.
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  JWs + Chronic Illness

  by Cimarrona in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i once asked my dad why, with all the power the wt insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the adventists, wilderness training.

  i mean, the gb encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related.

  i'd say most witnesses i knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me).

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  I once asked my dad why, with all the power the WT insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the Adventists, wilderness training. I mean, the GB encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related. I'd say most witnesses I knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me). How were they supposed to get thru Armageddon like that. Why weren't resources provided to help them better their health. Besides prayers and "comforting" visits lol. His response was, "That would be too invasive." But it's not invasive for them to tell you to shun your child. Got it.
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  Things I Cant Stand Since Leaving Watchtower

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.

  now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.

  little kids in suits.

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  Single men who know they're a minority and take that as license to treat women they call "sisters" like crap

  Lunch with the CO and his wife

  Standung in line to pick up literature

  Preaching in any form

  Singing those damn songs

  Listening to those damn songs

  Avoiding profanity

  Reading about how a spirit without genitalia disapproves of oral sex

  Constabtly lying to my parents about everything

  Being a pompous ass