Posts by Fairlane

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Infinity versus nothing

by Fisherman in

some people like to believe in something others believe in nothing; so in what location did the substance that expanded into the time/space universe exist before the big bang?

where did the energy that caused the big band come from?

how did the substance that became the big bang change from being inert and sterile and come to life to having the properties and drive that it does?

Excluding god as the cause at least imo is evidence of human beings using intelligence,whereas the intelligence needed to achieve the irrefutable answer could well be beyond the scope of the capacity of the human brain, which as all components of the human body has limitations. The scientific study of the physical aspects of the universe is understandable because we have the capacity to test and experiment according to our brains capacity of the physical of which we are a part being that we are made up of the sum of that which surrounds us, outwith that (which is the rub ) may well be conditions beyond our ken (comprehension )

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Death and Judgement Day

by Tirisilex in

i'm having a hard time with this.

what does the bible say what happens when you die?

when jesus was on the cross he said to the man that when he dies he will be with jesus in heaven.

Fairlane

Its called the ' comma take your pick ' god loves teasing games....who will the next fool be !!!

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Short stay

by midnight in

after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.

midnight..

Fairlane

@midnight...." nothing eliminates them etc." The big question is...what qualifies them , is your god so dismissive of the deliberate skewing of doctrinal teachings which has brought death and misery, family trauma, suicides and blatant hypocritical dogma which has time after time proved false!...do your research don't be lazy ! If you have truly studied this bunch of charlatans and think god is using them what kind of 'god' is it...imo you should seriously question your idea of god. Don't insult your intelligence with this watchtower cult scam...that would be my advice.

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Since everything about the origins of the Watchtower magazine were proved wrong, what legitimacy can its inheritors claim?

by Half banana in

the original aim of ct russell in starting the watchtower magazine in 1879 was to announce to the world his pet idea that jesus had come to rule in the heavens five years earlier back in 1874. for the young entrepreneur this new magazine looked like a commercial runner and it was!.

most of us know how profoundly false the prophecy was but if you don't mind i'll give a brief overview for newbies:.

1874 was the failed adventist prediction year for the return of christ in the heavenly glory, which russell was now saying was the right year after all.

Fairlane

A building must stand on solid foundations to justify its purpose. The foundation for the watchtower, hence jws has long since crumbled even by their own admission. The subsequent years have given rise to false doctrine and predictions time and time again. To date they are constantly in a process of 'shoring up' their ever crumbling building. Those who cling on or newly associate are entitled to do so if they wish, but will always be aligning themselves to a structure which will never have a solid foundation. The precedents are there if they care to investigate. .....don't throw pearls before swine.

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Which bible translation do you think is best and most acurate?

by NikL in

jw
friends

for those that still care to read the bible of course.

those that don't, please keep the snarky comments to yourselves :-).

i am assuming nwt is not very popular?.

Fairlane

Any mistranslation, especially to bolster' in house' doctrine , which corrupts the original language should be avoided....however, any biblical canonizing which is accepted as genuine, especially as the origination of said writings is at best dubious should imo be avoided...hence i avoid all bibles. They are at best books which promote confusion,the evidence of which is abundantly apparent.

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OK who threw the stink bomb in here?

by Thisismein1972 in

come on a believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!.

this is exactly what seems to be happening, a believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so.

😅😅😅.

Fairlane

A jw does not follow their own understanding of the bible. That task is conceded by jws to the governing body self appointed faithful and discreet slave , who reason by means of a parable that they alone must provide the non negotiable spiritual food,although this method seems to happen without inspiration! ??. To deviate from this format a jw must expect consequences even up to the point of disfellowshiping and shunning..how loving is that?

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Are witnesses even trying anymore?

by megaboy in

havent had an encounter with a witness in a while, almost 10 years, though at this point i could run circles around them in the scriptures, this encounter was very strange.

was eating with my son at a coffee shop, guy comes up using it as an opening.

i'm use to this because people find my son beautiful so i was open to him.

Fairlane

My last encounter with the cart brigade the ' brother ' said "we dont hold the magazines out in front anymore but wait till they (the public) approach the cart" ?? Definitely less effort required its too much to hold a magazine in front !!

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April 2017 wt says you can't undo a dedication to God

by poopie in

jw
friends

if that's true then you can't say such and such is no longer aa jehovahs witnesses .

now i'm not very educated but is this like contradictory..

Fairlane

Is it possible their thinking on this could be an uninspired error of judgement. .....Mmmmm?

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MERRY CHRISTMAS

by jhine in

l don't visit very often now , but l wanted to drop in to wish all you folks a merry christmas and happy new year .

as l cannot find a thread already started for this l have started one !

in the immortal words of chuck berry ( l think ) " come on everybody " join in wishing your fellow posters a merry christmas , happy holidays etc .