Posts by RolRod

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The ransom makes no sense

by BourneIdentity in

if mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?

if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.

it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.

It makes perfect sense, not the JW way, but the Biblical way. I guess one would question why it took some 5,000 years between Adam falls to Jesus birth for God to do anything? Is God responsible for all the suffering in the world? Did he create evil? No, man created evil. There's a purpose for it all, just because you don't understand it doesn't make it any less true. God has a plan, and He's in control, and guess what? Thing will get even worse before it gets better. But unlike the JW's who believe that salvation comes ONLY via their theological lenses, every man, woman and child who ever lived will live again, because that's what the ransom is all about. Jesus died "a ransom for all".

RR

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What to do with old publications

by TonyMorronTheTurd in

hi guys,.

it's been a while since i posted here, but i feel like posting again.. it's hard sometimes to find the energy to post here after i expend all my time working a full time job and pretending i care about the wt$ at the same time.. i've been trying to slowly wake my girlfriend up ever since i first posted here, and i must say it is a long waiting game that i am playing right now.

almost all my efforts are dismissed and i've been slowly losing hope.. anyways, what i meant to really post here today is about old publications.. honestly anything that has to do with the watchtower and jdubs, as of recently makes me feel like vomiting.

RolRod

I've been selling my library off on ebay one book at a time I still have 22 bookshelves 10 feet tall filled with books and about a hundred boxes in the garage, stuff going back to the early 1800s with the early adventist. This is my retirement fund LOL

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Waco Mini-Series on Netflix. Powerful and Scary.

by Simon in

so we binge-watched the waco mini-series on netflix.. wow, what a powerful and enlightening programme!

even if you think you know what happened, it gives you extra context to it all.

it's very well done even if you just want a great drama series, but it's way more than that.. there are of course some dramatization and slight historical inaccuracies for the purpose of story-telling but it was very informative.

RolRod

I binged watched the series over a period of 3 days. I enjoyed it and remembered it well when it was actually happening. I did some research, they actually razed the building and built aa church on it. The Branch Davidians still exist.

43

Craziest thing you ever saw in a KH?

by dubstepped in

i did this in my facebook group for my podcast and it was fun.. so what's the craziest thing you ever saw?.

for me it was watching a brother have a heart attack during the meeting in the auditorium.

i was a kid and noticed him shaking and acting strange.

RolRod

An elder having an affair with another elders wife, he fathered 3 of her children and the husband never knew, until the wife got pissed that he wouldn't marry her, she confessed to the whole affair. In the end, everybody got disfellowshipped.

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Anyone know of someone doing this or maybe you have done it

by phoenixrising in

anyone ever hear of someone getting dfed in a congregation then moving cross country and joining another jw congregation and not telling them you were dfed.

?.

RolRod

Many years ago when I first started out, there was a case. A brother was DF'd and he moved across country, started studying again, pretending to be a new interest. He got baptized, and eventually rose up the ranks of elder. But his past caught up to him while serving at a convention he ran into an old acquaintance, and he was again DF'd.

RR

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What Did You Choose Jehovah Over?

by minimus in

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some jws believe they have the truth.

they alone understand god, jehovah.

they are very happy being jehovah’s witnesses.👍👌..... many others realize what they have given up for jehovah, to belong to the jehovah’s witness religion.

RolRod

I gave up a future, and at the time I joined, I was in a relationship with a woman who loved me more than life itself, and I had to give her up because she was of the devil and Jehovah would provide me with a mate.

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Reel to reel tapes and old Watchtower literature

by lastmanstanding in

it's been an emotional few weeks going through old watchtower literature, i mean old.

i have saved many things, some you have never seen.

particularly related to 1975, i have wts literature, even a big newspaper article about the 1975 prediction.. today, i started going through the reel to reel tapes.

RolRod

A few years ago I got rid of 3 reel to reel players. one was state of the art, digital. I had about 350 reels, conventions going back to the late 1920s. one of them had Russell's voice on it. I didn't have time to transfer them, it would have taken me years. I gave everything away.

I sold all the photo drama and Rutherford records on eBay though. Still have every watchtower magazine from 1882 to 2010, selling them off year by year.

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Brooklyn Daily Eagle-Old Brooklyn Photos-one is of Towers Hotel & in Comments is a link to 2002 Dateline program

by AndersonsInfo in

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surprise, surprise - see the 2002 dateline program exposing jws child abuse problem at the following link:.

https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2020/04/23/iconic-eagle-photographer-from-1930s-to-50s-left-treasured-images-his-son-recently-discovered/.

the first photo is of the old towers hotel.

RolRod

I stayed at the Tower Hotel

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EVERY Religion has Hypocrites- even the TRUE One!

by MuchCloserLook in

so, if you expect to find 'saints' with halos, you will never find real christians.. after over 30 years of being a jw, there are many things about the org that disturb me- yet no one else even acknowledges the only true god, as jesus referred to him.. not a 'they' or 'them' ('trinity')- but him!and he has always had the name jehovah (yehovah in hebrew)- even though the koine greek had no version of it when the nt was written.. so among the many things real christians have to endure- is often each other!

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RolRod

<< So among the many things real Christians have to endure- is often each OTHER!>>

Amen, I gave a talk many years ago on John 17, dealing with the Lord's Gethsamane prayer in part I said the folliwng:

Jesus asks the Father for four things regarding his disciples. Look at the text with me: "Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name-the name you gave me-so that they may be one as we are one." (V.11) The word for "protect" means to guard or keep. But here's the question: What does He want them to be protected from? It's not the Devil and his powers because He gets to that in verse15.
Whatever it is that He wants them protected from will be a threat to their oneness and unity. Here's my suggestion: Jesus prays that the Father protect them from themselves. The greatest threat to unity is sinful human nature. Jesus has seen it in the disciples before. They argued over: who was the greatest; who should sit at the right and left of Jesus in glory; who should wash the feet; why they couldn't do certain miracles; whether they should let the children come to see Jesus. It's human nature.
We are naturally drawn to bitterness, jealousy, self-centeredness, pettiness, gossip, grudges, anger, prejudice and much more. Each of these things is deadly to the church and to relationships. Jesus is praying that the Father would protect them from such division. If the disciples were going to carry the message to the world, they needed to work together. So do we.

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How old were you when you left the borg?

by Iamallcool in

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me-23 years old.

RolRod

physically walked away around 30, mentally and spiritually around 25