Posts by RolRod

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Do JWs buy old JW books to destroy?

by mickbobcat in

i have never heard of this but i doubt its never been done.

i sell some older jw books on etsy and have always been a bit afraid that some jws are buying them to destroy.

if you have heard of this let me know.

RolRod

I'll tell you a story. Back in the early 80s, there was a letter read from the Society. It basically stated, that with all the new Bethels being build around the world, they were in need of older literature to stock their libraries. It was asked that any books pre 1960s be packed up and sent to the Society, particularly Russell and Rutherford era literature. At the time I lived in the Bronx, and we had several Bethelites. Our Hall was the first Hall built in NYC, it even had a baptismal pool in the basement (no longer in use). That Sunday, the library was packed and hauled off to Brooklyn. We had a lot of old books dating back to Russell. I was later told by Randall Watters that the Society had a bonfire with them.

RR

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Allegheny Pyramid Desecrated

by RolRod in

sometime within the last 2 weeks, someone took a sledgehammer to the pyramid monument in allegheny.

they stole the topstone, smashed the cross and crown emblem and removed the seal.. personally i'm surprised it lasted this long untouched.

although through the years russell's grave has been vandalized, it was always repaired by the bible students..

RolRod

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Allegheny Pyramid Desecrated

by RolRod in

sometime within the last 2 weeks, someone took a sledgehammer to the pyramid monument in allegheny.

they stole the topstone, smashed the cross and crown emblem and removed the seal.. personally i'm surprised it lasted this long untouched.

although through the years russell's grave has been vandalized, it was always repaired by the bible students..

RolRod

Pete, you mean after Rutherford went to prison, the Society moved back to Pittsburgh, then when he was released they returned in NY

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From Paradise Lost To Paradise Regained: Is the WTS the sole promoter of this doctrine?

by Pallbearer in

howdy folks,.

i am interested in learning whether or not the watchtower society is the only religious entity that teaches the "from paradise lost to paradise regained" idea.. the "idea" is that god's original purpose for man and the earth has not changed.

god purposed for adam and eve and their offspring to reproduce and fill the earth and live forever upon it; but the problem of sin entered into the picture and temporarily interrupted that purpose from being completed.

RolRod

Plenty of groups believe in Paradise Earth, Bible Students, Jehovah's Witnesses and all their offshoots. As mentioned Christadelphians, various Adventist denominations.

It should be noted that even among mainstream Christians, many teach that the church will go to heaven and be with the Lord for a 1,000 years. While the earth is scorched and purified, then everyone will return to earth and libe happily ever after!

RR

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Allegheny Pyramid Desecrated

by RolRod in

sometime within the last 2 weeks, someone took a sledgehammer to the pyramid monument in allegheny.

they stole the topstone, smashed the cross and crown emblem and removed the seal.. personally i'm surprised it lasted this long untouched.

although through the years russell's grave has been vandalized, it was always repaired by the bible students..

RolRod

I agree Hermit ... although this monument is an embarrassing chapter in their history, I'm surprised the GB did not attempt to take it down and make it disappear like so many other embarrassments.

Still I don't approve of this. It's uncalled for.

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Allegheny Pyramid Desecrated

by RolRod in

sometime within the last 2 weeks, someone took a sledgehammer to the pyramid monument in allegheny.

they stole the topstone, smashed the cross and crown emblem and removed the seal.. personally i'm surprised it lasted this long untouched.

although through the years russell's grave has been vandalized, it was always repaired by the bible students..

RolRod

Okay ... who did it?

Sometime within the last 2 weeks, someone took a sledgehammer to the Pyramid monument in Allegheny. They stole the topstone, smashed the cross and crown emblem and removed the seal.

Personally I'm surprised it lasted this long untouched. Although through the years Russell's grave has been vandalized, it was always repaired by the Bible Students.

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Just saw this on Reddit…

by Biahi in

a person said they were working at an adult bookstore…a jw came in to do exterminating.

saw the former brother working behind the counter.

lol.

RolRod

Hold on Mick, your GF was an elder???

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Newly discovered Dead Sea Scrolls with the tetragrammaton within the Greek text

by dropoffyourkeylee in

big news from israel, some previously undiscovered dead sea scrolls have been found with portions of the ot in greek.

it says the name of god is included in hebrew letters within the greek text.. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/world/middleeast/dead-sea-scrolls.html.

"the new fragments contain verses from zechariah 8:16-17, including part of the name of god written in ancient hebrew, and verses from nahum 1:5-6, both from the biblical book of the twelve minor prophets.".

RolRod

I don't believe anyone questions God having a name, the question is .... is the name JEHOVAH?

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Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

by minimus in

jw
friends

does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

are you offended if you see a flag?

what about a confederate flag?.

RolRod

Honestly ... I don't get easily offended. Although it boggles my mind how easily people do

RR

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When You Were A Witness Did You Believe Everything Taught?

by minimus in

jw
friends

obviously at some point you stopped believing the witnesses had the truth or else you wouldn’t be here.

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but for the most part, were you a true believer or were you typically a rebel or a doubter?

RolRod

I studied in 82, Got baptized in 83. I figured it all out by 1985. Of course my view was that these were imperfect men sincerely trying to do God's will. Since I love to read I collected every piece of Watchtower literature I could find, old books, oldtimers, etc. This was before the internet and I learned the truth about the truth. I stayed because it kept me out of trouble AND because I enjoyed it. I was a favorite among the body because I understood and wasn't quick to condemn and suggest DFing someone. But in the end I decided I wanted to out but stayed because my wife at the time was raised a JW and all her family and friends were in. I had eventually enlightened her and we slowly faded after I stepped down. Never looked back and they never looked for us. It's as if they said "good riddance". Although the last year we were in, they tried hard to investigate me, questioning me. The P.O. even came after me physically, took three elders to hold him back and I laughed.

As I said, it kept me out of trouble.

RR