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  Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

  by mickbobcat in

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  when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

  i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

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  FFGhost

  It would be great if a WT reference to this teaching could be found.

  "Ask, and ye shall receive".

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1999323#h=14:0-15:594

  God’s people once understood that the first phase of the great tribulation began in 1914 and that the final part would come at the battle of Armageddon.

  However, in later years we have come to see things differently. On Thursday, July 10, 1969, at the “Peace on Earth” International Assembly in New York City, F. W. Franz, then vice president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, gave an electrifying talk.

  Then a significantly adjusted explanation was offered: “To correspond with the events of the first century, . . . the antitypical ‘great tribulation’ did not begin in 1914 C.E. Rather, what took place upon Jerusalem’s modern antitype in 1914-1918 was merely ‘a beginning of pangs of distress’ . . . The ‘great tribulation’ such as will not occur again is yet ahead

  You can get a whole long list of "clarifications" here:

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174#h=1:0

  "Let the reader use discernment" as to which is wackier - old beliefs, or current beliefs.
  
  
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  U.K. Nurse Vaccinated With Covid Shot Has Covid Weeks After Getting Vac!

  by minimus in

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  someone i know from england is a nurse.

  she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.

  she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.

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  FFGhost

  I know of a nurse in the UK who had covid last year, got the vaccine in December and is in hospital now with Covid in January.

  I one time heard about this person who was wearing a seatbelt, got in a head-on auto collision, and died anyway.

  So why bother wearing a seatbelt, hey?
  
  
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  U.K. Nurse Vaccinated With Covid Shot Has Covid Weeks After Getting Vac!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone i know from england is a nurse.

  she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.

  she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.

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  FFGhost

  I'm hearing that several people are still getting the virus after vaccination.

  The vaccine requires time for the immunity to "kick in" Plus the vaccine is only 95% effective, meaning that "several people" will still get COVID after vaccination.

  Didn't we already establish these points?
  
  
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  Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

  i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

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  FFGhost

  But at that time it did seem to make a lot of sense during the "Cold War"

  That's what's missing these days.

  Back in the 60's & 70s, it was all rubbish and foolishness, but at least it was coherent crap. If you suspended belief in reality, you could pretty easily imagine the WTS picture "fitting" world events. The puzzle pieces fit together.

  Today, it's just fluffy panda-petting promises and behavior modification guidelines.
  
  
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  U.K. Nurse Vaccinated With Covid Shot Has Covid Weeks After Getting Vac!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone i know from england is a nurse.

  she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.

  she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.

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  FFGhost

  Peaceful Pete,

  Hard science and facts are merely a distraction on threads like this.

  On discussion boards like this....but I digress....
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  Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

  i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

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  FFGhost

  You can now read an entire year's worth of Awake magazines in like 20 minutes.

  Literally.

  Although, which really is worse: Silly bullet points copied from the back page of "Psychology Today", or 40 pages of Fred Franz's blather about the type / antitype relationships between Antiochus !, Ptolemy, etc. vs. 18th and 19th century popes.

  Which is worse: Brief, vacuous nonsense, or long-winded pseudo-intellectual claptrap that aspires to be profound but is just essentially word salad?
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  U.K. Nurse Vaccinated With Covid Shot Has Covid Weeks After Getting Vac!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone i know from england is a nurse.

  she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.

  she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.

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  FFGhost

  So, in other words, it turns out a vaccine with a 95% effectiveness rate, also has a 5% failure rate?

  That is, 1 in 20 persons who receive the vaccine will get infected anyway?

  Mind-blowing stuff.

  Math is hard!
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  If god exists why the Galaxy Andromeda is flying towards us ?

  by Jewtwo in

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  galaxy andromeda flying towards the milcky way is a fact so why god did that ?

  i don't see the point, the galaxies will enter in collision in a very long time but i don't understand why a lovely god would do this it feels stupid.

  (or there is no god).

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  FFGhost

  I remember a loco, sorry, local "anointed" single spinster tell me that she liked to imagine the angels howling with laughter as they sent galaxies, planets, comets, what-have-you, crashing into each other, like 5-year-olds crashing their toy trucks on a playground.

  Good times.
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  Jehovah`s Witnesses owe their existence to Christendom`s groundwork.

  by smiddy3 in

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  1.jehovah`s witnesses base their bible on christendoms determination of what books of scripture were to become what is known as the bible today,going back to the third century ad.. there were many ,many other books of scripture in existence at that time that these men decided in their own imperfect wisdom not to include them .. where it suited them the jw / gb would use the research of christendoms learned men who compiled bible dictionary`s and bible concordances.. 2.by far the vast majority of jehovah`s witnesses today are off-shoots of many of christendom`s religions from whom they poached members from and then gave birth to their own offspring to grow in numbers.. with all of there self praise of witnessing in all of the earth ,it is mainly wholly contained in lands where christendom has established the major religion of that land and jw`s have poached the most vulnerable people of that time.. 3.how many thousands of people have they converted in bangladesh ?

  pakistan ?

  china ?

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  FFGhost

  Speaking of India, my understanding is that the JWs there preach almost exclusively to already-Christian Indians, and well over 95% of the population of India is just completely and utterly ignored.
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  What results are the letter writing having?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
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  most jws are restricted to letter writing ministry right now.

  of course i've heard a load of highly dubious 'encouraging experiences' about it already.. but what i'm wondering is how these letters are actually being received and what effect they are really having?.

  i also find it disturbing that jws are being told to put their home address on the letters they send out.

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  FFGhost

  Well, the USPS is getting a lot more revenue as 1 million+ JWs in the US are buying millions of books of stamps.

  Oh, did you mean "results" as in "people wanting to convert to being a JW"? If so, then the answer is, technically speaking, "Bupkus".