I don't think they (legal) create anything themselves, but I'm 99.9999% sure they have "veto power" on any doctrine, policy, practice, or guideline that might possibly have legal repercussions.
FFGhost
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Do the WT lawyers now dictate what the GB now do and say ?
by smiddy3 inafter all that has been happening these past years and changes that have been made on many fronts in the religion ,beliefs ,practices ,policies child abuse ,shunning ,etc, and different countries now taking a closer look at the religion ,i just wonder if the lawyers are now pulling the strings on how the organization functions and operates.. what are your thoughts about this ?.
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Drinking expensive drinks - seriously looked down upon as a JW
by Anony Mous ini remember when i was a jw, drinking a good wine or other liquor was looked down upon.
it’s better to put that money towards the worldwide work donations i always got told.
so the best thing i ever got was johnny walker red back then (johnny walker is cheap blend).
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FFGhost
If you get counseled for consuming [X] drinks, it's a pretty safe bet that the elder giving the counsel regularly consumes [2X] or even [3x] at a go.
"Ability to hold your liquor without appearing to be drunk" is one of the top "unwritten" requirements for being an elder, along with "10+ hours of field service per month" and "does his family do anything embarrassing?".
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FFGhost
They do the music, but everyone is on mute (or at least they are supposed to be).Everybody just sings along at home.
It sounds really awful, due to differing bandwidth and connection speeds, to try to harmonize 60, 70, 80 devices that typically join in for a meeting. So they just mute everyone.
What's funny is to watch them sing as they are muted. Some folks really apparently get into it. I think to myself "poor neighbors..."
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Eye-Opener
by ElderStuckin ineach eye-opener in my awakening had nothing to do with apostates.
it was always by looking directly at the so-called spiritual food that helped me awaken.. in 2019 they changed the wording of the second of two baptismal questions which are answered aloud before the audience.
now i realize that these questions have been adjusted over the years.
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FFGhost
Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?
Full question, with the implied part fully written:
Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization, and therefore you voluntarily and completely agree to give us carte blanche to use the threat of disfellowshipping and the implied subsequent loss of association and affection of all of your family and friends as emotional blackmail to coerce you into doing what we demand?
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Drinking expensive drinks - seriously looked down upon as a JW
by Anony Mous ini remember when i was a jw, drinking a good wine or other liquor was looked down upon.
it’s better to put that money towards the worldwide work donations i always got told.
so the best thing i ever got was johnny walker red back then (johnny walker is cheap blend).
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FFGhost
I remember when I was a JW, drinking a good wine or other liquor was looked down upon.
Hoo-wee, I can tell we never belonged to any of the same congregations.
In most if not all of the congregations I attended, your popularity was directly correlated to the quality of the booze you provided at your
partiesdrinking boutsget-togethers.You knew you were "in good" with Brother X if he pulled you aside, or invited you to stay a bit longer after everyone else left, and he'd pull out "the really good stuff".
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Love the don't use a gun for self defence by Gary Bro
by mickbobcat ini just watched that stupid talk by gary while e bro on not using a gun for self defense but it went deeper.
i was that you don't defend yourself against violence.
well ain't that great from an asshat living in a gated and guarded compound.
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FFGhost
How a Christian chooses to protect himself, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter
They seem to be suggesting a sort of "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding what measures a JW might employ, short of firearms.
I know an elder whose "open secret" was that he kept a baseball bat under his bat for any unwelcome visitors.
As I understand, a bat is considered one of the best defensive weapons in the case of an intruder not carrying a firearm.
spiritually mature Christians choose not to keep a firearm for protection against other humans.
Translation: Keeping a firearm for the purpose of self-defense will get you removed from any "privileges" (elder, pioneer, etc.) but won't get you DF'ed.
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HOW A SISTER’S FAITH IS TESTED
by pistolpete ingoing to preach in countries where jehovah's witnesses are banned is a sign of faith!
powerful by faith 2021 convention of jehovah's witnesses - friday morning.
the latest video is about a sister preaching in a country where there are only 3 publishers.
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experience of a SINGLE SISTER sent to a Country where the work is banned.
It may have been slightly more subtle if they would have put a flashing red & black chyron occupying the bottom half of the screen reading "This is China. This sister was in China. CHINA we said".
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What is it with these lard ass GB and gold rings and watches?
by mickbobcat inthey wear jewelry like they are some don from the cosa nostra.
watches and rings like some cheap pimp.
hey they are cheap pimps.
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Pinky rings! All the best dons wear them.
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Anyone get the feeling that the cult is really in trouble.
by mickbobcat inso all the bs and hyperbole aside, to me it really looks like the cult is in trouble.
shrinking member, selling halls.
the move to televangelism is really strange to me.
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On the one hand, folks on forums such as these have been predicting the demise of the WTS for many years and they are still here.
On the other hand, I think they are in for a shock once "real" Kingdom Hall meetings start up again, and after the novelty wears off in a month or 2, attendance plummets. And similar for the door to door ministry - excitement and novelty for a couple months at best then a nosedive.
How will they respond? Carrot or stick?
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I think Splane is the Cult Leader. And I think there are more apostates working on the inside than we can imagine.
by pistolpete inso in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.
he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.
he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.
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What "leaked video" is that? There's nothing new by Splane on the JW.Borg broadcasting site.
I don't doubt that he rants about it, I just don't know how to access the video.
I am quite sure that Splane views himself as "the boss". He projects the pomposity and delusions of grandeur of someone who thinks he is the most special guy in the room. It is clear that he views himself as the smartest of the bunch (not exactly a high bar to clear) and that he thinks he is tremendously gifted with the ability to explain "deep things" to those whom he views as morons.
Can you tell I don't have a high opinion of him?