Just an example of the complete reversal of the annual meeting’s “ new light” that I commented on here:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6298913263321088/thoughts-on-annual-meeting-new-light#5159783716356096
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Join JW's or DIE - soon!!!
by BoogerMan inw72 10/1 p. 607 - "they (jw's) know that soon now all who are not true worshipers of jehovah (jw's) will be destroyed.".
how quickly half a century passes by!
2 peter 3:8 - "...one day is with jehovah jw.borg as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
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Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”
by FFGhost inso, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
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FFGhost
So, I finally saw the Annual Meeting video part 2.
This is the one with the “new light” on who might survive Armageddon, vs. those who do not.
In summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:
Old light: Once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-JWs. The “door of the ark” is closed. If you’re not an active baptized JW, you are doomed.
New light: Maybe some fold might take a stand for “the truth” even after the GT begins, but before Armageddon. “We just don’t know, Jehovah will do the right thing”.
Old light: Even though not every individual will receive a personal witness, those who are not active baptized JWs will be eternally killed at Armageddon anyway, “Something something community responsibility”.
New light: Jehovah can read hearts, maybe some people who would have responded favorably to a witness but didn’t get one might make it. “We just don’t know, Jehovah will do the right thing”.
Old light: Babies and children of non-JWs will be slaughtered right along with their parents at Armageddon, parents are responsible for the lives of their children.
New light: 350,000 babies are born every day, “Jehovah will do what is right, we just don’t know.”
Well, that certainly is a change! Let’s talk about just one consequence of all this “new light”: It has made the “preaching work” absolutely, completely, entirely meaningless.
To wit: Under “old light”, the preaching work was vital. JWs we’re giving “worldly people” their one true last opportunity to be saved from eternal destruction. JWs had to reach absolutely as many people as possible to save as many as possible. Once the GT started, that was it - the door slams shut, and if you are on the wrong side of the door, you’re screwed.
But now, under the new light, “Jehovah will do the right thing”. All kinds of people might be saved - babies, those who never got a witness, fence sitters, all kinds of folks.
Let’s be generous and suppose JWs were really super-effective in their preaching efforts and managed to give a “good witness” to half the world’s population, 4 billion people (the actual number is far more likely to be much less than 10% of that number, but as stated, let’s be generous).
So what about those other 4 billion who never got a witness? “We just don’t know, Jehovah will do the right thing.”
Evidently, Jehovah will “read hearts” and determine who “might have been receptive if they had had an opportunity” and save them.
Well, wait a minute. If Jehovah is going to “read hearts and do the right thing” for 4 billion people, why couldn’t he do it for 5 billion? Or 6 billion? Or for every one of the 7,999,992,000 non-JWs on the planet?
And if he could do that, then what exactly is the point of the preaching work? If Jehovah can and/or will read everyone’s heart, what purpose is served by telling others about Armageddon in advance? If they have a “bad heart”, they’d reject the message, and if they have a “good heart”, they’d accept it. Same outcome as if Jehovah just judged everyone at Armageddon anyway.
“Apostates “ have been pointing out the futility, inefficiency, and pointlessness of the JW preaching work for decades. JWs ignore them, “why should we listen to apostates?”
But now, for anyone capable of concentrating on a thought for more than 30 seconds at a time (I know, a tall order for most JWs) will come to the conclusion as I just did: The Governing Body just announced to the worldwide brotherhood that any and all efforts at witnessing are pointless and completely unnecessary, since, as they repeated literally dozens of times, “Jehovah will do the right thing”.
Imagine the devastation of those who truly believed they were engaged in a literal lifesaving work for years, decades, maybe 50, 60, 70, 80 years, and now, with a few chuckling lighthearted comments, “oh by the way, all that work you did? Thanks but it was wasted effort. We would apologize but we’re imperfect so we don’t have to. Have a nice day! And oh yeah, we love you very much.”
It would be hilarious if it weren’t so tragic for all those millions who wasted their lives toiling on a task that their governing body just told them doesn’t matter after all.
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New GB update - beards are now perfectly ok (no really!)
by FFGhost into save y’all the agony of having to sit & watch lett (looking even more puffy and jaundiced than the last time), here is a summary:.
beards are now perfectly fine for anyone & everyone, including ministerial servants, elders, and “special full time servants” (cos and betheliites).. but don’t go and feel “vindicated” — even if you knew you were right about beards, you shouldn’t run ahead of jehovah’s “chariot”.. so there you go.. if you need explicit permission from a puffy steroid addled facial contortionist with an increasingly ridiculous combover to make personal grooming decisions…you might be in a cult .
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To save y’all the agony of having to sit & watch Lett (looking even more puffy and jaundiced than the last time), here is a summary:
Beards are now perfectly fine for anyone & everyone, including ministerial servants, elders, and “special full time servants” (COs and Betheliites).
But don’t go and feel “vindicated” — even if you knew you were right about beards, you shouldn’t run ahead of Jehovah’s “chariot”.
So there you go.
If you need explicit permission from a puffy steroid addled facial contortionist with an increasingly ridiculous combover to make personal grooming decisions…you might be in a cult
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Female Angels
by peacefulpete infor some reason i never noticed this before: .
5 then the angel who talked with me came forward and said to me, “look up and see what this is that is coming out.” 6 i said, “what is it?” he said, “this is a basket[b] coming out.” and he said, “this is their iniquity[c] in all the land.” 7 then a leaden cover was lifted, and there was a woman sitting in the basket!
[d] 8 and he said, “this is wickedness.” so he thrust her back into the basket,[e] and pressed the leaden weight down on its mouth.
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That is interesting, I never caught that either.
The WTS skirts (sorry) the issue of “female angels” in their “literature” by claiming this was a vision of “symbolic women”, despite the author’s pretty clear intention to portray them as angels.
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What does God eat ?
by stan livedeath inbeans ?
( human beans ).
to those of you that believe in god: do you all believe the same thing ?.
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I would have said “soul food” but what do I know?
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How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?
by southyukon ini have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.
higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.
a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.
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FFGhost
You may not be so familiar with JWs and thus not able to correctly interpret the coded messages in your snippet.
Here Is what they mean:
Jehovah's Witnesses feel that the environment in some universities or similar centers of higher learning can pose moral and spiritual dangers
Translation:
”Hey JW parents! If you give permission to your kids to attend a university, there is a 100% chance they will immediately become drug-addled drunken fornicators engaging in orgies between sessions of mainlining black tar heroin.”
many Witnesses choose not to immerse themselves or their children in such an environment.
Translation: “If you allow your offspring to attend a university, you will be ostracized completely by our community. You will lose any and all ‘privileges’ we may have granted you. No one will include you in any social events, and you will be a virtual outcast.
Oh but hey, it’s ‘your choice’ on whether you want to go or not.”
Ok yeah the above is a bit hyperbolic, but there is a frighteningly high percentage of JWs who would read the article that way, and an even more frighteningly high percentage of Bethel heavies, primarily in the Service Department, who would love to be able to print something closer to my words than theirs.
The real reason they hate &fear higher education is that it teaches young folks how to think for themselves, examine ideas critically, and to see firsthand that “worldly” (non JW) kids are perfectly sane and rational and normal and the vast majority are not drug-addled drunken orgy-attenders as the WT paints them to be.
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The FDS Photoshop
by Vanderhoven7 infor those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.
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from the february 2024 watchtower .
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FFGhost
It’s on page 130 of the printed version.
They swapped it out with an image of silhouettes sitting around a table in the online version you get on the JW library app.
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The FDS Photoshop
by Vanderhoven7 infor those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.
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from the february 2024 watchtower .
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Heck some may be dead by now and we’re just watching AI of them now. Sure that sounds far fetched but at this point nothing would surprise me.
Of course this is preposterous.
On the other hand….
Have you noticed that all, every one, of the talks given by Losch & Herd over the past couple of years - every Gilead graduation, every annual meeting, 3 times a year - have been pre-recorded in front of a green screen? And every talk is word for word read from a teleprompter? Every time they read a scripture, they cut away and show the text of the verse on the screen, presumably so you don’t notice them not looking down at their Bible.
I guess, maybe, since they are the oldest guys, maybe they get too nervous to do it live anymore, or they’re too afraid they’ll keel over dead in front of the live audience, but still….
It’s just weird.
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February 2024 Study Watchtower -
by BoogerMan infebruary 2024 study watchtower p. 2 par.
2 - "however, a question may arise: 🤣 what will happen to christ’s “other sheep” who will be serving jehovah faithfully on earth during the “great tribulation”?
(john 10:16; matt.
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Lol.
Clue #8,483 for the governing bumbleheads:
If you have to write an article telling everyone “we ourselves are so beloved”….maybe you ain’t quite so beloved.
Idiots.
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The FDS Photoshop
by Vanderhoven7 infor those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.
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from the february 2024 watchtower .
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FFGhost
LOL.
That’s all over Reddit now.
The funny part is, the original photo comes from the “God’s Kingdom Rules” book, published in 2014. The original had Guy Pierce in the middle and Morris on the right.
They just keep photoshopping that same photo over and over. Later they published it after they took out Pierce when he died. Later in another publication there was the same photo with Cook plunked in.
Now they publish yet again the same photo but with Morris pulled out and Fleegle & Winder smushed in.
It really says something when the GB can’t even be arsed enough to take a new picture together, but instead they keep photoshopping the same pic over & over & over again.
I’m not sure what it says, but it sure says it!