Posts by FFGhost

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Do you know of any JW that likes to watch Military Flyover?

by Iamallcool in

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just wondering!

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FFGhost

Back in my younger days, there used to be an air show in the city where I worked in a downtown office building. The air show was held over a long holiday weekend.

On Thursday & Friday, the planes would practice their performances from the small airport within viewing distance of the building I worked in.

Every year there was an exhibition from military planes - alternating one year the Blue Angels, the next the Thunderbirds.

The Navy / Air Force pilots got a kick out of buzzing the skyscrapers. You'd hear this low rumble, then a window-rattling whoosh, a remarkably fast shadow, and if you were quick enough, four F-15s or F-18s a few hundred feet away, at almost eye level.

I was a full on 100% believer at the time but I was always the first to jump out of my seat to try to catch a glimpse.

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Did you think this was it for the Watchtower-(Covid)- Well-They are coming back with even greater ZEAL!

by pistolpete in

so you all probably heard that the awake magazine is back, .

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=g&yearfilter=.

and one of my jw relatives said they were told by some elders that meetings and field service will resume before the end of the year.. they said this covid virus was a test, like when the romans breached jerusalem and retreated, only to come back later and sack jerusalem.

FFGhost

Strange heard assembly will be online for 2022.

There was an announcement a few months back that there would be no international conventions in 2022.

They have not said anything about the "normal" (how's that for a misnomer) regional conventions for 2022.

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Time Indefinite

by StephaneLaliberte in

from a very young age, i was always annoyed by this translation time indefinite simply means: time that has not been defined.

where the new world translation uses "time indefinite", other translations use "everlasting" and "eternal".

honestly, it makes much more sense to me "everlasting" and "eternal" as "time indefinite" would leave room for god to define that time later on.

FFGhost

It seems that the WTS have dropped the phrase nowadays.

The Revised NWT cleaned up the worst of Freddy's "I don't give a hoot if it is an idiom, I'm going to translate it as literally as possible" renderings.

They did the same thing with "soul" and "Hades" - now it is, for the most part, "life" and "the grave".

Although there are still readability issues - for example they have replaced every instance of "fornication" with "sexual immorality" which is remarkably clunky.

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Did you think this was it for the Watchtower-(Covid)- Well-They are coming back with even greater ZEAL!

by pistolpete in

so you all probably heard that the awake magazine is back, .

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=g&yearfilter=.

and one of my jw relatives said they were told by some elders that meetings and field service will resume before the end of the year.. they said this covid virus was a test, like when the romans breached jerusalem and retreated, only to come back later and sack jerusalem.

FFGhost

told by some elders that meetings and field service will resume before the end of the year.

There's nothing "official", but it's definitely on the way.

For example, in the local congregation, they announced that the January 2022 circuit assembly is scheduled to be held in person at the nearest assembly hall.

Subject to change of course, but it's a sign they are planning on trying to resume "normal" activities.

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2021-June-Announcements And Reminders!

by Atlantis in

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donations to support theocratic activities.

2021-june-s-147-announcements and reminders.

zipped folder.

FFGhost

How can "video showings" be higher than before the pandemic?

Since JWs can't go door to door, they do a lot of "phone witnessing" including whatsapp.

They'll send links to jw.borg videos via WhatsApp to their return visits, studies, etc. Then they'll ask "did you watch the video?"

If the answer is "yes", cha-ching! More gold leaf to make their monthly report look shinier.

It's actually far easier to achieve a "video showing" now. It avoids the utterly bizarroid phenomenon of using a 19th century sales tactic (knocking on doors) to try to sell a 21st century invention (streaming video).

It just makes me cringe, trying to imagine myself knocking on someone's door and asking if they'd like to watch a video on the handheld device I happen to be carrying with me. Every "householder" would have to be thinking "WTF kind of loon walks from door to door trying to get people to watch a video? Why aren't they on Facebook or Instagram or TikTok or whatever?"

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Party tunes

by jhine in

as usual there's a lot of serious shizzle being discussed on here .

i can only cope with so much serious , so here's something that's really not .

as some of you know l am getting married soon and organising the evening bash .

FFGhost

"The Shulamite Remnant"?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Has anyone still in or otherwise heard anything about JWs think we only have 12 months before Armageddon?

by blablabluh in

i’ve noticed a change in family attitude recently, like there is just something extra on their mind.

i even had to call my brother to check if he was dying and too scared to tell me.

anyway, i saw a video last night my saying jws think we only have 12 months left before armageddon so thought maybe this is the reason for changes attitude.

FFGhost

Oh, here's another one:

Sometime in the late 90's a pioneer told me she had calculated that Armageddon would start no later than 2005. There was something in the old Aid book about how Cain had been born when Adam was 30 years old, or at least you could "back into" that age.

IIRC, I think the Aid book said that Cain must have been "about 100" when he killed Abel, and Seth was born to Adam at age 130 as a "replacement".

Thus, the pioneer's reasoning went, Adam had been alone in the garden of Eden for 30 years, then Eve came along, was tempted & sinned shortly after her creation, then soon after that Cain "must have" been born.

And, so, continuing on, the idea was that Jehovah's "rest day" was still somehow supposed to last exactly 6000 (or 7000 when you tack on the "1000 year reign") years. She still accepted that 1975 was the date for 6000 year's since Adam's creation, so 2005 would be the 6000th anniversary of Eve's creation - the last of Jehovah's "creative works".

I grant it was creative. It still used good ol' Freddy's chronology and "logic" that the "old system" had to last exactly 6000 years, and still fit conceivably within "one generation" of 1914, while also mitigating the failure of the "1975" prediction.

It was a pretty good "last gasp" for Fred's chronology and calculations - and, obviously, just like the 100+ years of failed expectation that preceded it, utterly wrong.

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Governing Body; Villians or just Deluded?

by pistolpete in

are you sometimes dumbfounded at the direction the governing body takes?.

thousands of documents proving 607 bce is wrong, yet the gb sticks to the date, why?.

the generation that would not die, yet they continue by introducing an overlapping generation.. disfellowshipping at a time when everyone is leaving, not a good idea, yet they continue to disfellowship.. here is a video that addresses these questions.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbgeqhp9o9i.

FFGhost

If you live in a bubble (aka Bethel), and no one ever provides you with information from a different perspective, and if anyone contradicting "the truth" is at best "disloyal" and at worst an "apostate"....

It is in fact quite easy to believe your own delusions.

And, in the case where somehow something does get through that provides evidence that it's all horse-puckey:

-- "where else would we go"

-- "if I rock the boat, I'll get expelled from Bethel and DF'ed. I'm [60+] years old with no practical work experience or skills, no savings, no retirement fund. My life quite literally depends on me never getting DF'ed. So..."

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Watchower and BMG agreed confidential settlement ?

by keinlezard in

i just read that watchtower pennsylvania and bmg music ave agreed to a confidential settlement .

about "listen,obey and be blessed" by aled jones ?

anybody have more information ?

FFGhost

Well, if it's a "confidential settlement"....that would be, um, no.

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Has anyone still in or otherwise heard anything about JWs think we only have 12 months before Armageddon?

by blablabluh in

i’ve noticed a change in family attitude recently, like there is just something extra on their mind.

i even had to call my brother to check if he was dying and too scared to tell me.

anyway, i saw a video last night my saying jws think we only have 12 months left before armageddon so thought maybe this is the reason for changes attitude.

FFGhost

Seriously, when my parents were baptised in the 1940's, they were told that their Little George would not have to go to school in this old system.

In a previous congregation, we had a guy who made a deathbed promise to his mother - in the late 1930's - that he would never marry "in this system" because Armageddon was so close.

Guy was still a member of the congregation - and still single - 60+ years later.

One of the saddest things I think I've ever seen was when he showed me a faded black & white picture of his sweetheart from 60 or 65 years earlier.