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Point taken but
Whenever I did it in my dub days I found it incredibly boring
As if trudging from one empty house to another to another to another, in sweltering heat & humidity or bone-numbing cold, was something more than "incredibly boring"
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Annual service report - yet another analysis - big trouble for the WTS
by FFGhost inthere's already been a couple of threads on the 2021 report with insightful comments, but i'm vain enough to want to start my own topic with some additional thoughts..... as others on the other thread noted, it's useful to compare the 2021 numbers not only to 2020 but also 2019 (the last non-pandemic report).. there are some really troubling (if you're a wt headquarters guy) news in the latest report.. 1) baptisms plummet.
2021 - 171,393. baptisms dropped 20% in 2020, and 30% more in 2021. the total drop from 2019 to 2021 is an amazing 44%.. one could argue that without in-person assemblies and conventions you'd expect baptisms to drop.
but....if someone really wants to get baptized, jws will find a way.
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Annual service report - yet another analysis - big trouble for the WTS
by FFGhost inthere's already been a couple of threads on the 2021 report with insightful comments, but i'm vain enough to want to start my own topic with some additional thoughts..... as others on the other thread noted, it's useful to compare the 2021 numbers not only to 2020 but also 2019 (the last non-pandemic report).. there are some really troubling (if you're a wt headquarters guy) news in the latest report.. 1) baptisms plummet.
2021 - 171,393. baptisms dropped 20% in 2020, and 30% more in 2021. the total drop from 2019 to 2021 is an amazing 44%.. one could argue that without in-person assemblies and conventions you'd expect baptisms to drop.
but....if someone really wants to get baptized, jws will find a way.
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There's already been a couple of threads on the 2021 report with insightful comments, but I'm vain enough to want to start my own topic with some additional thoughts....
As others on the other thread noted, it's useful to compare the 2021 numbers not only to 2020 but also 2019 (the last non-pandemic report).
There are some really troubling (if you're a WT headquarters guy) news in the latest report.
1) Baptisms plummet
2019 - 303,866
2020 - 241,994
2021 - 171,393
Baptisms dropped 20% in 2020, and 30% more in 2021. The total drop from 2019 to 2021 is an amazing 44%.
One could argue that without in-person assemblies and conventions you'd expect baptisms to drop. BUT....if someone really wants to get baptized, JWs will find a way. JW social media is blanketed with video after video of JWs getting baptized in swimming pools, lakes, rivers, even laundry tubs & 55-gallon drums.
The count of JWs is based on "publishers", not "baptized people", and you can be an "unbaptized publisher", BUT....
The number of "unbaptized publishers" in any congregation is typically very small, usually less than 10% of the total. And probably 90% of the "unbaptized publishers" in a congregation are kids of baptized JWs not yet old enough to get dunked.
The decreasing count of new baptisms points toward major declines in future publisher counts, especially as the COVID death toll adds to the usual JW attrition.
2) Field service hours plummet
2019 - 2,088,560,437
2020 - 1,669,901,531
2021 - 1.423.039,931
Field service hours dropped 20% in 2020 compared to 2019, and another 15% in 2021 vs. 2020. The 2 year drop is 32%.
Without actual door to door or public witnessing, you'd expect the number to decrease, BUT....
On the other hand, it has literally never been easier to "get your time in". Just sit at home in your bathrobe making phone calls or writing letters. If you have Zoom, join in with your friends in their bathrobes, writing letters. With all the "easy time" that is possible now, how is there a 32% drop?
If a JW were really "zealous", he'd be writing, phoning, informal witnessing, etc. at every opportunity. Theoretically , we're in the "last days of the last days" - hardly time to reduce your activity by one-third.
3) Average Bible Studies plummet
2019 - 9,618,182
2020 - 7,705,765
2021 - 5,908,167
That's a 26% drop in 2020 vs, 2019, and an additional 23% drop in 2021 vs. 2020. The 2-year total drop is 39%.
This is arguably the most devastating number of all. Without Bible studies, no one progresses from "Bible student" to "unbaptized publisher" to "Baptized JW". The "pipeline" is drying up.
It's even more horrific when you consider that virtually all JW parents with kids under the age of 12 are counting the "family study" on their reports. In no way, shape, or form does a pandemic affect the ability of JW parents to study with their own kids in their own home - so that number is unchanged. So, the drop in [Bible studies other than with your own kids] is even more dramatic - undoubtedly more than a 50% drop in 2 years.
The WT organization is reeling. The overall numbers are still pretty OK for now, but that's mainly momentum. The numbers will drop precipitously in years to come. They have been utterly blindsided by the pandemic (so much for Jehovah "telling his prophets in advance") and have no clue how to right the severely listing ship.
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FFGhost
IIRC, Edward G. Robinson's last film role.
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R movies
by road to nowhere inwitnesses never watch r movies.
but they understand references to wood chippers and banjo music.. other than that the rating system is not worldwide .
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Witnesses never watch R movies
LOL. Just like they "never" engage in oral sex, get pass-out drunk, or watch copious amounts of porn.
The more accurate statement is "never admit to" unless caught.
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Gog from Magog
by Kosonen ini saw an other thread about what the wt says who or what gog is.. my speculation is based on the following:.
in the end un will get the power for a short while, as taught in the wt literature.
this is based on revelation 17:12-14: "the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings for one hour with the wild beast.
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In the end UN will get the power for a short while, as taught in the WT literature.
Dude.
In the end, the UN has never had the authority nor the ability so much as enforce the legal operation of a lemonade stand.
Much less "destroy the world empire of false religion". Whatever that means.
You are living in a fantasy world.
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Roy Baty my Bethel Roommate and Pioneer Partner
by new boy inroy baty died three days ago.
i had a strange connection to roy.
i pioneered with him in kansas and he was one of my bethel roommates.
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FFGhost
There was a poster here by that name years ago:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/users/5563/roybatty
Or was that a "tribute account"?
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"The End is Imminent" - Tony Morris, 2017
by Smiles in2017 tony morris jw gb.
"the end is imminent!".
timestamp (06:00).
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FFGhost
After 140+ years, using the word "imminent" somehow loses its impact.
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GB 2021 Update #10 - "get vaccinated"
by neat blue dog inam the turd comes the closest to just coming right out and telling jws they have to do it.
he says, 'there's no need to worry, just keep doing what works: wear masks, wash your hands and get vaccinated when possible'.
the busybodies are going to be even more insufferable now than they have been.
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He said that 25,658 have died from Covid. Is that worldwide? That is 3.2% of the 800,000 that have died.
The 25K dead JWs are the worldwide figures.
Worldwide, the number of deaths attributed to COVID is ~5.4 million. 805,000 is the amount for the US only.
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Commenting Ban?
by Iamallcool indo you think the watchtower will ban commenting at the meetings one day?
if you are pimo, you might want to try to make some comments to make others think about the “truth”!
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Nah, it's one of those "real" requirements to determine who is "worthy" of "special privileges".
The WT "literature" says that to qualify to be an elder or MS you need to meet the requirements of 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1, but here are the "real" qualifications:
-- 10+ hours of field service reported per month
-- Note: Doesn't matter whether you actually do 10 hours - the only important thing is to report it
-- Also note: you should be "visible" in the ministry - at least occasionally support group arrangements.
-- Attendance at every meeting, including commenting
-- Not a problem for or an embarrassment to the congregation in general and the elders in particular
-- Your family meets or at least comes close to the above requirements
That's it. The requirements at 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 are so vague and unremarkable that virtually any JW male who can breathe with his mouth closed meets them. And of course qualities such as intelligence, kindness, generosity, empathy, reasonableness, etc. are not only irrelevant - they are practically disqualifying factors.
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Would You Like To Be God?
by Ultimate Axiom inwe know there are a few on this forum who think they are, but consider this for a while.
if you are god, you are omniscient, therefore you have nothing to learn.
nothing to research, investigate or explore as there is nothing you don’t already know.
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FFGhost
How do you fill an infinite number of years being all knowing, all powerful and all alone?
Sounds like a recipe for insanity.
Come to think of it, that would explain a lot......