am iiii off topic remarks at the anual meeting, are online at broadcasting.. he says in the early 70s he did not believe the end was near, and told his sons not to believe jw's who stating the end is near because the system could go on to 2020.. g..
Telling your kids it can last 50 years is not an urgent attitude.
Excellent point.
How quickly you'd get shuttled into the "back room" at the Kingdom Hall (or the "breakout room" on Zoom) if you said, during a talk, "this 'system of things' might last well into the 2060s or 2070s".
I think AMIII is blowing smoke up his ample patootie.
lloyd has taken his video down: has anyone got a copy of it?.
I'm no attorney, but I suspect a video message proclaiming "It's OK! The prostitutes I used all assured me that they were of legal age!" isn't quite the strong defense he thinks it is.
Perhaps a real attorney convinced him of the same.
here is a copy of loyd's facebook latest comment.
https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910.
all were in their 20s or older
I can see paradise.....and the date of birth on the notarized copy of your birth certificate....by the dashboard light.....
original reddit post (removed).
If Watchtower or JW lurkers are reading, we are not all sexually deviant as Lloyd has insinuated.
100% true.
And 100% meaningless - if WT monitors this site and/or reddit (which they almost certainly do, or pay someone to do), they will 110% use this incident to paint all "apostates" as child-raping deviants to their adherents.
This incident will have done more to drive fence-sitters back to "mother" than any of his videos have done to influence anyone to leave.
in a recent post ffghost made a comment about how they're always inserting modern concepts into biblical narratives to make it relatable to jw's organization.
here are some that come to mind:.
- the capitalized term "governing body" when referring to the older men in jerusalem (really just another group of christians that paul outspokenly disagreed with and didn't look to for approval).
The WT publications used to teach that Adam, of all people, wrote a portion of Genesis and that Noah's family preserved copies of that portion of Genesis in the ark through the flood.
I've never heard that before - would love to see a quote. I'd guess it was something from the 20's or 30's.
David Splane claimed that the whole of archaeology, historiology and geology are all WRONG because their demonstrated age for the Great Sphinx contradicts the Governing Body's unsupported and egregiously dogmatic interpretation of Genesis.
The infuriating part of this is that he is one of the probably, at best, 2 or 3 guys on the GB with sufficient intelligence to actually understand how stupid his claim that it's "all wrong" is. So in the classic "evil or deluded" question regarding GB members, I think that puts him squarely on the "evil" side of the ledger.
original reddit post (removed).
How much do you want to bet a WT article or broadcast is going to bring out some of these details, without naming his name, after which they will bash apostates with a wide brush stroke?
JW Broadcasting, May 2022:
"One prominent apostate who made videos attacking Jehovah's organization solicited donations from his viewers, and then used those funds to travel to an Asian country to hire underage prostitutes! Clearly we see how far into moral decadence apostates fall. Truly the scripture at 2 Peter 2:22 has proved true yet again, 'The dog has returned to its own vomit, and the sow that was bathed to rolling in the mire.' Brothers and sisters, don't let the same thing happen to you! Stick close to Jehovah's organization, and avoid apostate material like the plague that it is."
in a recent post ffghost made a comment about how they're always inserting modern concepts into biblical narratives to make it relatable to jw's organization.
here are some that come to mind:.
- the capitalized term "governing body" when referring to the older men in jerusalem (really just another group of christians that paul outspokenly disagreed with and didn't look to for approval).
4 disciples! I missed Andrew sitting in the foreground with his back to the viewer, can't tell if he has a beard or not.
in a recent post ffghost made a comment about how they're always inserting modern concepts into biblical narratives to make it relatable to jw's organization.
here are some that come to mind:.
- the capitalized term "governing body" when referring to the older men in jerusalem (really just another group of christians that paul outspokenly disagreed with and didn't look to for approval).
Obviously Judas of the Sicarii
I actually thought of that but given the artwork (Jesus on a hill overlooking Jerusalem with 3 disciples) it seems they want to convey the Matthew 24 / Mark 13 scenario, which would make the 3 disciples Peter, James, and John.
there is another way to fellowship with your loved ones after disagreeing with the wt besides getting reinstated.
all you have to do is fling yourself off a boat and start drowning, says watchtower:.
"suppose, then, a member of a christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat.
I think they also said, around that same time, that a JW was "permitted" to help a DF'ed person change a flat tire on the side of the road.
Note the date of that WT - it is during the time when Ray Franz had more influence in the GB, and attempts were made to sand down the roughest edges of the organization.
Of course, 6 years later, Ray was kicked off the GB & later DF'ed himself, and the hardliners took over (and have been in charge ever since).
EDIT - I see Jeffro posted the quote regarding the flat tire. Good to know my memory still works!
in a recent post ffghost made a comment about how they're always inserting modern concepts into biblical narratives to make it relatable to jw's organization.
here are some that come to mind:.
- the capitalized term "governing body" when referring to the older men in jerusalem (really just another group of christians that paul outspokenly disagreed with and didn't look to for approval).
What's weird (OK, additionally weird) about that 1968 picture is that one of the apostles listening does have a beard.
If your goal is to drive home the message "beards are bad" why draw one on a "good guy"?
