Posts by NeedToKnow

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Dis-fellowshipped For Not Going To The Kingdom Hall You Are Assigned Too

by new boy in

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my parents started attending the glendora congregation in 1961. my mother had a strange feeling about the congregation.

there was something going on there that just didn’t feel right.

there was a huge exodus going on of people leaving this congregation’s kingdom hall too.

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Ive actually told elders in my cong that they are not appointed by Jehovah at all, or His Holy Spirit. It’s all box ticking. You tick their boxes and kiss some ass and you get appointed. There are very few who genuinely love Jehovah but unfortunately the good traits that get their boxes ticked have to be left by the road side once they become elder because they now have to obey the elders book and not the Bible.

Same with the GB. Why is it only those at the top of the castle are the GB? Its a pyramid scheme and how apt when it all started by a Freemasons or Iluminati, whatever.

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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

by smiddy3 in

i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

NeedToKnow

TD they will never change the blood doctrine. The amount of people who would sue them for the wrongful deaths of their loved ones would be astounding.

Aside from your perfect explanation, let's also look at Pauls' words when he said (I apologise for not quoting the scripture exactly as I have a headache and cannot be bothered to look it up right now) that the law exists for the sake of man and not man for the sake of the law.

The blood stance puts the law ahead of that which it's supposed to represent which is utterly ridiculous. Considering a transfusion will likely save a life, yet a life is supposed to be sacrificed for the sake of that which represents it.

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wt on education..

by zeb in

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i have just watched the glass smashing on the wt video on education.. please consider these experiences from the opposite side of that "coin".. i have heard young ones say out-loud on the mike in the kh that "jehovah is my special friend.."these ones who were at the top of the wt 'tree' pioneering, putting in the hours etc but, it followed that soon saying that pivotal statement they dropped their pioneering, faded, picked up the girl/boyfriend and suffered being dfd.. so where did their wt "education" leave them?

it left them as young adults naive to the world, unskilled, with no qualification to offer any employer and having to replace their former family/associates/friends with new ones.. ( dont get me going on shunning) in some cases with little success as we have read here where they moon about for months or longer unable to emotionally heal after the leaving or df'ing and also others with such a turn around they would never have believed it possible... there was a wt that related how a brother (!

) followed an interest in history and left the truth.

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Because knowledge is freedom and they don't want us thinking for ourselves and having a personal relationship with Jehovah based on our own understanding independent to the org. That would mean they would have to go get a job for themselves just like Jesus had till he was 30 and just like the apostle Paul had so he wasn't dependant on the congregations even though he knew they would be all too willing to provide for him.

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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.

by smiddy3 in

when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

no communication systems operating .

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First of all I don't believe it's only going to be JWs in paradise. There were Egyptians who left Egypt with the Israelites. Also Rahab and her family were saved.

Why wouldn't people be able to get to the level of technology that we have now, probably an efficient and cleaner version of it in paradise? If we were made in God's image and he's a creator, why wouldn't we be? I've never believed that the paradise would be like that. Obviously in the beginning it would be disrupted but we'll have solar and wind power and all the rest eventually. If it was done before, it can be done again.

And Jehovah didn't exactly leave Adam and Eve to their own devices. If he had no contact with them, why would the Bible mention that after they ate from the forbidden tree, they hid from Jehovah?

As for Jehovah been a magician, he provided mana and water from a stone while the Israelites were in the desert. How about the oil that never ran out for one of the prophets?

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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

by smiddy3 in

i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

NeedToKnow

Someone’s done a lot of homework on the UN thing on another forum. Here’s the link.

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php

Now we should move on from this topic as there’s are numerous other omissions and hypocrisies going on than the UN saga. I mentioned some and love to hear learn of more. The whole 1914 is a good one to explore considering the person in charge of researching it back in the day, Raymond Franz, couldn’t find anything anywhere to prove it.

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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

by smiddy3 in

i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

NeedToKnow

This Doubter individual is truly mind boggling. Seems to me he must be be the head honcho at his cong. Or she’s married to one.Can’t we disfellowship people off this site? We should at least mark him/her and stop associating with such ones. Just stop answering their stupid, pointless comments. Everyone else with half a brain knows full well what hypocrisy is and that the WT practices it in a major way. There’s 12 + pages of this moron been a troll. He’s likely the kind do JW that gets into arguments with people at the door while witnessing rather than walking away.

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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

by smiddy3 in

i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

NeedToKnow

It’s actually worse than that

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world

“To qualify, organisations must show that they share the ideals of the charter, operate on a non-profit basis, "demonstrate interest in UN issues and proven ability to reach large or specialised audiences" and have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities.”

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Expected pain

by former2free in

last week was a big week for me in terms of coming totally clean to my wife and her being more than on board to leave the jw’s with me.

we know what to expect but things happen from family and it still hurts just as bad.

last night my wife got a long text message from her brother that has seemed to be in the fence and he told her that same guilt tripping rhetoric that the wt uses about life in the paradise etc.

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Giordano, that is exactly what I’ve done. Particularly because I know of someone suspected of such locally and have said the exact thing, until they sort it out, I won’t be a part of what is in effect child sacrifice which Jehovah abhors. Done.

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Bro. Geoff in September 2018 Broadcast vs Serena Williams

by NeedToKnow in

the september broadcast opens up with a story of 80 yr old brother geoff who gave up been in a band all them years ago.

fast forward to 2018 and we have a world renown tennis player and jw as far as we’re told.. so where some are encouraged to leave the world and it’s futile pursuits of fame and fortune, others are not.

or even punished for their behaviour on court or for been photographed with their country’s flag where others have been executed for refusing to salute flags.

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In fact, I am not manufacturing fake news. It has always been assumed in my end of the world (Australia) that she is a JW. I have doubted it personally and have enquirer and was always told that she is, obviously because she says so. I have never heard of her baptism status. You see, JWs in the USA know more because they are actually amongst the org and it’s origin. The rest of us get this god-like version that we have to look through to get to the truth.

but you’re missing the point which is that where some are encouraged to not do well in life and sacrifice for the org, others are not. Replace Serena with anyone who is considered important because they have a uni degree and can help the org via their careers. They’re a bunch of hypocrites just like the scribes and Pharisees and those were the ones Christ disliked the most and the only ones he condemned.

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Bro. Geoff in September 2018 Broadcast vs Serena Williams

by NeedToKnow in

the september broadcast opens up with a story of 80 yr old brother geoff who gave up been in a band all them years ago.

fast forward to 2018 and we have a world renown tennis player and jw as far as we’re told.. so where some are encouraged to leave the world and it’s futile pursuits of fame and fortune, others are not.

or even punished for their behaviour on court or for been photographed with their country’s flag where others have been executed for refusing to salute flags.

NeedToKnow

The September broadcast opens up with a story of 80 yr old brother Geoff who gave up been in a band all them years ago. Fast forward to 2018 and we have a world renown tennis player and JW as far as we’re told.

So where some are encouraged to leave the world and it’s futile pursuits of fame and fortune, others are not. Or even punished for their behaviour on court or for been photographed with their country’s flag where others have been executed for refusing to salute flags.

I guess the contributions she makes make it okay. Catholics used to call it “indulgences”. And Christ called it hypocrisy.