i just discovered something i have not seen anywhere before.
i was looking at my old "all scripture inspired" book, and i say old because it was the first edition from 1963 and i had used it for years.
according to the wt cd there were revisions in 1983 and 1990. i came across this little goodie under the book of daniel.
starting over
Well now we have a question. I know the answer and it is rather simple and if you really understand WT chronology then the answer is readily apparent. City Fan has now appeared so let us see if he can answer the question.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
well, consider this quote for 'dumb-itude'.
"over the years, printed literature and convention and assembly programs have repeatedly.
alerted us to such dangers as fear of man, sexual immorality, materialism, and other.
metatron
Pehaps it is someone who once believed in the things held dear but now rejects these as lies, This methinks is a form of intellectual cowardice and treachery. Such protestations of enlightenment are false and misleading. Former Witnesses cannot be trusted with truth because they have none, no doctrines , no church or organization, no brotherhood, no ministry, no religion.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
i just discovered something i have not seen anywhere before.
i was looking at my old "all scripture inspired" book, and i say old because it was the first edition from 1963 and i had used it for years.
according to the wt cd there were revisions in 1983 and 1990. i came across this little goodie under the book of daniel.
startingover
There is nothing unusual in the recent comment concerning the accurate date for the reign of Nebuchadnezzer. Bible chronology calculates the beginning of Nebuchadnezzer's reign which differs from that of secular chronology so it is simply a matter of choice. Follow the Bible or man's interpretation of secular documents. The date of 607 and 624 nicely coincides with the other synchronisms in the biblical record. You will see that a nice chronology chart is presented on pages 293-297, si, 1990. Enjoy!
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
well, consider this quote for 'dumb-itude'.
"over the years, printed literature and convention and assembly programs have repeatedly.
alerted us to such dangers as fear of man, sexual immorality, materialism, and other.
metatron
There is nothing dumb about the new brochure 'Keep On The Watch' as it provides a most timely reminder that we are living in the last days of this system. The discussion is based on topical subjects which discuss advanced theology and prophecy. What other Christian religion highlights the importance of God's Sovereignty and the reality of the Lord's Kingdom firmly established in 1914. We are truly a blessed and spiritually prosperous people having the honour of declaring the wondrous acts of God by means of this beautiful brochure.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
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the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.
could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?
Narkissos
Yes, alternative biblical chronologies can be found today and have their origins particularly with the work of James Ussher who made his chronology famous by its insertion in the meritorious King James Bible. I have pointed out on this forum that there are chronologies available toafay but not one from apostates or WT critics. The study of chronology is complex and there is no uniformity within scholarship on this subject but the WT Society fro its earliest history has provided a coherent presentation of the biblical data with the secular data. In other words we have always had a chronology that establishes prophecy and buils faith in God's Word.
Our chronology is based upon Absolute or pivotal dates and is not conjured out of thin air as you imply. All of the dates are in fact calcuable and based mainly on biblical history. This is not cultic behaviour because cults are not based on reason but our teachings are firmlly based on reason as any impartial investigation would show. Jehovah's Witnesses are interested in biblical scholarship as evidenced by the making of a translation which is the envy of scholars and proves that we are competent in producing works of serious scholarship.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
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the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.
could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?
Utopian Reformist
Your comments are irrelevant to me because I do not run away from issues as many critics of WT theology do. IF you are so attuned to the progress of this post then please explain why my critics have not responded to my earlier challenges to chronology. Where is the list of kings for Israel and Judah? Where is an alternative biblical chronology? What calender year concludes the Gentile Times? How is prophecy fulfilled in modern times? I simply choose the timing and manner of my responses in the full knowledge that these issuse will be repeated in the future The bpttom line is that our critics have no substitute for our splendid NWT, Organization heritage, chronology and biblical theology.
svholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
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the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.
could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?
Alan F
It is all smoke and mirrors with your exhaustive deconstruction of WT chronology. With all being said you cannot provide an alternative biblical chronology. So, the biblical data and the secular data is meaningless. But WT chronology has certainly tried and has provided a consistent fallible bible chronolgy which has served as a framework for the fulfillment of prophecy. Perhaps, you should tell Carl Jonsson these facts that he is wasting his time with any chronology because it is meaningless, perhaps you should rewrite the Bible and omit those texts that contain any chronological data because such information is mythical.
Whatever your criticism of WT chronology amounts to, you still cannot provide an alternative to the Lord's chronology so in the absence of any surety from you I will continue to defend our accurate and splendid chronology.
Your inability or laziness in providing a chronology of the Divided Monarchy shows how puerile your comments on Wt chronology is . Many scholars have worked on this subject and have met this challenge but you cannot. WT chronology has from the earliest times also faced up to and met this challenge and continues similarly to this day providing a workable, consistent chronology for both Israel and Judah. This is the real test of the chronologist. However, all you can do is criticize the faithful labours of honest and humble men who love God, his Son and his Word. Frankly, your comments are despicable and show that you are a fool because you do not even believe in the Christian message, the Bible, prophecy and chronology.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
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the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.
could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?
Alan F
If its provable that Bible chronology of the Hebrew kings is contradictory and inconsistent as you claim, then how is it that the six scholars that I referred to in my previous post, made such chronologies? Besides WTchjronology has long published such a scheme beginning with Russell in his Time Is At Hand and in the 1923 Watchtower under the heading :a Clear Vision of Chronology and not fro the forties as you falsely claim.
Is it not about time that you put up a chronology of the Old and New Testament? You cannot and neither can an any other critics of WT chronology/
scholar
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the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.
could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?
Alan F
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the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.
could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?
Alan F
Pathetic excuses are all that you have despite the fact that WT chronology from earliest times have had no problem in presenting an intelligent, cohererent list of kings for the Divided Monarchy. It is problematic for other scholars because of methodology and failure to take the historicity of the Bible seriously. Besides there are other non-Witness chronologists who make made such a list such as Thiele, Hayes, Hooker, Bright, Cogan and Tadmor.
scholar
