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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

waton

schjw, are you calling wt inc a truly end time church? a true church ? with errors piled up since 1914 when they proclaimed that they would go to heaven, the world ending? the ancients fiasco in 1925? the "superior authority" mess 1929 ~ 1960 ?

feel sorry for the families that will be laid further astray to add to that 100% failure record including their failed 1914 predictions-

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What can be said despite our record of failed predictions is that we have heeded the Lord's admonition to 'Keep on the Watch' unlike Christendom which has failed to recognize or herald God's Kingdom.

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

ozziepost

the important ‘label’ is to be known as a christian. They happen to attend a particular church but unlike JWs they don’t see themselves in a separate religion (or even the “true christians” ) because of the particular church or denomination they attend.

let’s return to that then, they see themselves as christians who happen to attend an anglican church

-- Your comment is simply too fuzzy. Perhaps you can define what is a Christian or what does it mean to be Christian and how is such presented in the Anglican Church?

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

ozziepost

The people I’ve met in churches describe themselves as christians who attend an anglican church.

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Are you saying that it is only in the Anglican church there are Christians?

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

ozziepost

Wasn’t the church born at Pentecost ?

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Only the Holy Apostolic Church which was not the Anglican Church I am afraid with a smile on scholar's face.

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

Diogenesister

I believe they already are. I think someone checked the study editions and there has only been one real mention of the 1914 doctrine in the last 20 years??

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Hardly for the Study Bible, recent Watchtowers and the new Bible study aid all affirm 1914!!!

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

waton

They fear monger families by playing on the unbelieving mates fates when the early end time christians headed for the hills prior to 70 the year of our lord. leaving the unbelievers behind.

things that wt likes to see in the years to come, breaking up more families over the talking snake tale.

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Praise the Lord that we now have since 1914 CE a representative of the Early Church and now a truly Eschatological Church unlike a Church born out of the divorce of an English king circa 1534 AD.

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

ozziepost

You’d be welcome to join me !

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The Anglican church is a “broad church” and that appealed to me after the uniformity of the Kingdom Halls.

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That is the trouble for it is too broad for me as it was for my mother who left Melbourne, Victoria to move up to North Queensland. I will stick to the Biblical church replicative of the Early church.

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You’d be welcome to join me !

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No thanks because your Church does not teach or proclaim the Gospel, the Kingdom, Parousia or any Eschatology. Your Church is not the eschatological church foretold in the Bible but a church of the past, of liturgy and traditions etc.

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

ozziepost

A benefit of having streamed services because of Covid restrictions opens Sydney Anglican parishes and their weekly services to public view. In two of my ‘favourite’ churches, this past couple of weeks, their prayer time has highlighted and prayed for Christ’s return.

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I hiope your two local churches are following the protocols of the Anglican Book of Common Prayer which has as part of its liturgy refer to the Lords Prayer and other brief citations pertainning to His Coming.

I trust that you continue in your diligent study of God's Word and that you continue to preach and teach the Gospel which i did not and neither did my mother find in the Anglican communion.

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

Fisherman

To JW and those with insight, yes. To others it is subjective.

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A similar situation that Jesus confronted in his day. Nothing new.

scholar JW

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

scholar

Fisherman

That is not the point. Are you saying that WT never taught or published that ww1 started on oct 1914?

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Correct

Also, are you saying that wt cannot go back to the drawing board and change our understanding of Bible chronology or prophecy?

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Subjects such as prophecy and chronology and with all forms of knowledge must always be susceptible to review or change for that is a feature of Epistemology

You may recall the teaching of generation relating to 1914 was so logical and clear cut that it seemed like a dilemma when nothing happened 80 years later and wt changed it. Can you set your heart on 1914 like you did on generation or are you prepared to let it go and still remain faithful based on all the other evidence that cannot be falsified even if 1914 becomes a 1975. I have.

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One must always be open to change and that is the case with 1914 but at this present state of knowledge, our teachings around 1914 appear to sound and well founded.

scholar JW