Posts by sinboi

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We are giving too much power to the watchtower

by sinboi in

i am just 17. many of you here are much older than me.. i do feel that offering advice here is like teaching my father how to fuck.

but seriously, i do see the problem here.

we are focusing more on the problem than the solution.. i have been reading mind power books for quite some time.

sinboi

Punk, thanks for that song, I heard it before at my relative place. Will go youtube later and listen to some other Beatles songs. "She was just 17, You know what I mean.."

Forgive me if I remain sceptical about this.

It's alright, Punk. I have left the org for nearly a year. I have met real people.

Real people who thinks. Real people who have their unique way of thinking that differs from mine. Not like those people inside who don't think and left their thinking to the fds.

But don't you agree that if we mess up our lives after we left, we are reinforcing what the wt says. But if we can show them that we can be happier and better after we left, the result will be different?

I wrote this because I came across some chaps who mess up their lives after leaving. I don't understand why the hack they left in the first place. Going from slavery to the wt to slavery to drugs!

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We are giving too much power to the watchtower

by sinboi in

i am just 17. many of you here are much older than me.. i do feel that offering advice here is like teaching my father how to fuck.

but seriously, i do see the problem here.

we are focusing more on the problem than the solution.. i have been reading mind power books for quite some time.

sinboi

I am just 17. Many of you here are much older than me.

I do feel that offering advice here is like teaching my father how to fuck. But seriously, I do see the problem here. We are focusing more on the problem than the solution.

I have been reading mind power books for quite some time. What we focus on expands. I remember I read of a man battling cancer and finally conquered it. He said that instead of viewing cancer as a big C and he himself as a small ‘i’ , in his mind he was a big ‘I’ and the cancer a small ‘c’. He has thus taken the power away from the cancer.

Over here, I find that we have given too much power to the watchtower. We are reinforcing the idea that we are victims of the watchtower. In this way, we are like saying we cannot do anything about it.

We all agree that the wt is a man-made organization. A man-made org is not formidable. It has its weak points and we can target its weak points.

Our own mind is the most effective weapon against the wt.

For example, being shunned by parents after leaving. What does the wt say about those who left?

They will be ensnared by the devil..they will not be happy… they will be miserable..

What will our parents think if we mess up our lives, turning to drugs and sex and even suicide?

If we are in such as state, won’t we be reinforcing our parents’ belief in the wt?

What if we do the opposite of what the wt say about us?

What if we can show our parents that we are happier after leaving? What if we continue to love and respect them? What if we refrain from doing things that they abhor in front of them? What if we can make them not wanting to shun us themselves?

If they have show you love and concern while you were in, then the only reason they shun you is because of the wt. If you can act in such a way that they personally do not want to shun you, they may begin their own research on shunning and may come to conclusion contrary to what the wt say.

I forgot where I read it. An elder brought her injured df’d daughter back home, keeping her in hiding and willing to accept consequences for his actions. Love can overpower wt doctrines.

My parents are still shunning me on the outside but deep inside, I know they still love and concern about me. The shunning part is improving. They even bought me new shirt and shoes. Last week my mom even tidied up my room while I was out.

Remember YOU are bigger than watchtower.

*I have changed my avatar. The old avatar has a stupid, stupid ‘waiting on jehovah’ look. The new avator is more awake and questioning…

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Yes, its true. God can give us happiness in paradise!

by sinboi in

happiness, sorrow and anger are just our emotions.. god can easily give us happiness by taking away from us the emotions of sorrow and anger.. that will happen immediately after the big a.. when you see your loved ones killed at a, you will be happy.

you no longer has the emotion of sorrow.. no one will scold you as noboby has the emotion of anger.. you will always be happy and smiling.. this is what being perfect means .

you do not label anything as good or bad.. if you are interested, register at your nearest kingdom hall.

sinboi

Happiness, sorrow and anger are just our emotions.

God can easily give us happiness by taking away from us the emotions of sorrow and anger.

That will happen immediately after the big A.

When you see your loved ones killed at A, you will be happy. You no longer has the emotion of sorrow.

No one will scold you as noboby has the emotion of anger.

You will always be happy and smiling.

This is what being perfect means . You do not label anything as good or bad.

If you are interested, register at your nearest kingdom hall. Hurry up! Watchtower says that registration is closing soon!

Nope...me not interested! For me, I want to be sad when my dog dies. I want to be happy when you give me a million dollars. I want to be angry when someone offend me. In other words, I want to be a human being. You consider those in paradise humans? Human should be able to have the emotion of happiness, sorrow and anger.

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Are you better off as a worldly person or a JW?

by Jules Saturn in

i was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.

he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.

i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.

sinboi

I don't agree that born-ins should go back.

I believe that humans can learn to adapt. For me, I was born under slavery in the wt for 16 years. Do you want me to go back into slavery for the rest of my life?

Some of you having good intentions, advise me to go back and left when I am older. Leaving when I am in my twenties??? Another 10 years in slavery?

The longer I stay inside, the harder it will be for me to adapt to the outside world.

10 years...If I remain outside, 10 years later, I believe I would have completely adapted to the outside world.

I know some of you may worry that I will mess up my life as I am still young. But I can tell you this: I am just out for less than a year. During this time, I have encountered many ups and downs. In fact, more downs than ups. But through every of these downs, I come to understand life more. Rather than staying inside the borg, only know to wait on Jehovah...

There is a tribulation ahead of me...I will turn 18 in December. Some of my friends have already receive the military enlistment registration order...I don't know how my jw parents will react when I am in the army....

But I also know one thing - after my completion of the compulsory military service in 2 years, everything will be fine or if not fine, at least it will be better.

My advice to those born-ins who have left : You may not be able to adapt to the outside world now. But know that it is just temporary.

You can learn to adapt... Just imagine yourself having to live in a new country knowing not a single soul. You can find new friends...Crawling back into the org is just not the answer. You still need to do it later and it will be harder.

Look ahead...that is what keeps me going...

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What is CT Russell's motive?

by sinboi in

what is russell's motive when he started examining the bible with a group of bible students?

did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?

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sinboi

they eventually built a Pyramid monument at his grave site.

WTF! They treat him like a god!

Why a pyramid? Isn't pyramids have something to do with the occult?

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What is CT Russell's motive?

by sinboi in

what is russell's motive when he started examining the bible with a group of bible students?

did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?

.

sinboi

he asked to be dressed in a toga

What is a toga? Why did he want to dressed in a toga?

Wearing a toga means he is a holy man? a prophet of god?

hahaha! I also read that he sold off 5 of his clothing stores while anticipating the end of harvest in 1878.

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What is CT Russell's motive?

by sinboi in

what is russell's motive when he started examining the bible with a group of bible students?

did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?

.

sinboi

The Russell that died was a completely different man as the Russell who started a bible study-group of 6 people. He became his own victim. --redpill

Can you elaborate more? Never heard of how he died.

At this stage he rejected all attempts to put a date on the parousia. He invested heavily using his own money and resisted appeals by his readers to form a new church or organisation. He taught that Christ's 'sheep' were to be found in every church.-- cofty

So he started off with a good motive. But he later set the date of christ's parousia at 1874 and then change it to 1914.

There is another thing I want to know. Did he ever claim to be god's prophet?

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What is CT Russell's motive?

by sinboi in

what is russell's motive when he started examining the bible with a group of bible students?

did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?

.

sinboi

What is Russell's motive when he started examining the Bible with a group of bible students? Did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?

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When You Die Would You Haunt The Governing Body? If It were Possible?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i've been reading a lot about reincarnation these days and i'm beginning to think that it quite possibly might be true, it seems to fit in nicely with the idea that we live in a computer simulation.. anyway according to the tibetan book of the dead when we die we seem to hang around on the earth waiting for rebirth.

at which time we could be ghosts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bardo_thodol.

sinboi

they say you have to choose when your ready and start looking for a womb to climb into

hey, where did you read that from? We can choose our parents???????

I thought reincarnation is based on past karma????

Now why do I choose to climb into the womb of a jw 17 years ago?

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Are you better off as a worldly person or a JW?

by Jules Saturn in

i was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.

he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.

i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.

sinboi

I am a born-in but left nearly a year ago at age 16. I would say when I was a jw and was still fully convinced that it is the truth, I was happier. I have a hope then. Maybe ignorance is not a bad thing after all.

Now that I am out. I faced the question many people have : What is the purpose of life?

I cannot be happy when I find no answer....

I am now able to do things that were forbidden by the wt. I have done them all. Sex, blood, birthdays, christmas...I need to force myself to do these things at first. But now, they are norm to me. But I am still not happy.

I was like a terminally ill patient. Someone lied to me that there is a cure for it. I was happy and hopeful. But then I found out that it was a lie.......