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Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?

by Cold Steel in

i saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?

haunted books?

ouija boards?

Rainbow_Troll

There is nothing to address. Parapsychology failed as a way to explain something that has been explained by normal science/psychology. That isn't to say parapsychology failed in and of itself because it did prove that it wasn't ghosts or whatnot i.e. found no reasons to support the notion of anything supernatural; it just failed as an explanation.

I think we are defining 'parapsychology' differently. Genuine parapsychology does not argue for the existence of ghosts or anything else supernatural; rather parapsychology studies phenomena that others interpret as supernatural and attempts to come of with a rational explanation for them; which is something that science has been doing all along since its inception.

The only difference between parapsychology and most other branches of science is that the phenomena studied by parapsychologists are so rare that progress is very slow when compared to branches of science that focus on more mundane subjects like physics and biology. Nevertheless, the basic idea is still the same: come up with rational, quantifiable and falsifiable explanations that don't require some supernatural agency like gods or demons.

This ain't Ghost Hunters. If anything, it's more like Scooby-Doo.

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Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?

by Cold Steel in

i saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?

haunted books?

ouija boards?

Rainbow_Troll

Susan Blackmore dedicated half her career trying to prove everything you claimed in your post. She concluded it was all fraud, deceit, Delusion and superstition.

I have not read Susan Blackmore, so I cannot comment specifically on her findings; but I don't see how this refutes the entire field of parapsychology any more than incidents of fraud refute any branch of science. Scientists in all disciplines have sometimes resorted to deceit in order to substantiate their theories, but that says nothing about science as a whole.

If paranormal phenomena cannot be examined using the scientific method, then what does that leave us? Religion? Witchcraft? Philosophical conjectures? If you are so certain that parapsychology is a failed venture, then what method would you suggest be used? Oh, I know that's a rhetorical question for you since you don't believe in the existence of the paranormal to begin with; but what about those of us who have either experienced it first hand or believe those who have?

Simply ignoring the paranormal does not address it; it simply evades it. Scientists may come to erroneous conclusions in their search for knowledge, but simply ignoring anything only perpetuates ignorance. As difficult as it is to study such an elusive subject using the scientific method, I think it's still the best available solution; if not the optimal one. To do less or to discourage others from doing research in this area is, in my opinion, to actively hold back scientific progress and to aid and abet charlatans who are all too happy to exploit people's superstitions for their own personal gain.

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Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?

by Cold Steel in

i saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?

haunted books?

ouija boards?

Rainbow_Troll

WhatshallIcallmyself: Show me some proof or supply some theory as to what these things are that we can test and let's go from there.

That would be a waste of time for both of us. There is an overwhelming volume of evidence for the existence of poltergeists and other paranormal phenomena. There is so much evidence, both experimental and anecdotal, that an entire branch of science is devoted to collecting and studying such evidence; it's called Parapsychology. If you are sincerely interested in Truth rather than scientific orthodoxy, then go to your local library and dig in.

But of course, for fundy materialists, none of it is valid evidence. And parapsychology is a pseudoscience at best. All 'evidence' for psychic phenomena has been deliberately falsified, or there was some flaw in the experiment, or bias in those who were conducting the experiments.

Parapsychologists regularly get dismissed and ridiculed by orthodox scientists who fear that acknowledging the existence of paranormal phenomena could legitimize the claims of religions, which, ironically, is a great boon to religious and occult charlatans of all stripes because it means that the realm of the paranormal will remain the last refuge for mysticism instead of being de-mystified like all other natural phenomena have been.

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what is the craziest book the dubbers ever published?

by dogon in

so i was wondering what book is the nuttiest they ever printed?

i know there are several in contention for first place but which is your vote for no 1?

also if you don't mind post a bit of what is in the book you pick to show why you picked it.

Rainbow_Troll

I really can't decide between the Revelation book and Life: How Did it Get Here. These were both my favorites when I was a kid: Revelation I liked because of the bizarre, apocalyptic imagery and Life contained just enough pseudo-science to satisfy my doubts and my affection for real science. However, soon I was reading worldly books that trumped these on both points. Compared to The Book of the Subgenius, Revelation is pretty tame; and Richard Dawkins exposes Life for the simplistic straw man argument that it is.

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Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?

by Cold Steel in

i saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?

haunted books?

ouija boards?

Rainbow_Troll

WhatshallIcallmyself: Ghosts aren't real and poltergeists are not throwing stuff around rooms. Minds play tricks and people lie. It is as simple as that, even if it is entertaining to read...

Oh please... You sound like a protagonist from a Lovecraft story. You would be the first person to totally loose their shit in a real encounter with an eldritch horror. A rigid mind like yours is bound to shatter...

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DEMONISM👿

by minimus in

jw
friends

when i was a kid and even in my adult life i believed in demons.

the demons were always around.

we had to be careful that we didn't do anything to upset jehovah or else the demons would make their way to us.

Rainbow_Troll

My mother is constantly being tormented by them. They tried to run her off the road when she was driving. Another time they tried to kill her by making a light fixture above her head fall. They are always playing tricks on her at night so she can't sleep. I asked her why she loves Jehovah so much when he won't even protect her from the demons, but she thinks she is being tested like Job was.

The truth is that 'demons' are actually angels sent by Jehovah to harry his followers in order to increase their faith. No actual minion of Satan is going to bother haunting someone, as this would only reinforce their belief in God and motivate them to pray, read the Bible, etc. Real fallen angels have better things to do with their time than playing practical jokes and scaring Christians; or for that matter buying the souls of worthless loosers who managed to find a free pdf version of The Grand Grimiore online.

Pinhead says stop calling or he'll get a restraining order.

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This is a great video! Must watch..... "Intelligent people beleive in God"

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg&app=desktop.

Rainbow_Troll

Since becoming familiar with those of other faiths, I've come to appreciate just how narrow and fanatical the JW concept of faith is. I've met plenty of Christians, for example, who sometimes doubt and struggle with the existence of God. But, just as David mentioned, their religion isn't just a matter of belief, but a practice that involves trying to live as Jesus did to the best of their present ability. In many religions - even Christianity - having doubts is a natural part of having faith. It's just a matter of being honest with oneself and others rather than pretending to know things about the world that one has no way of proving.

What JWs and most fundies miss is that most religions have an inner dimension to them of personal subjective experience. The faith of a non-fundamentalist does not stand or fall on the veracity of scriptures or the authority of a cult leader, but it rests on the foundation of a person's own personal experiences. If one feels the presence of God, for example, than faith in dogma, scriptures and annointed leaders is superfluous.

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Racist Antifa Member Goes on Killing Spree of White People, Kills Young Trump Supporter and Wounds Three Others

by kpop in

here is the young man who was murdered with a knife by a racist antifa member last night in austin texas.

rip harrison brown!.

https://imgur.com/a/1qqg7.

Rainbow_Troll

Worth noting is that throughout history, the non-violent are usually slaughtered and brushed aside. What they were able to achieve was in no small measure due to the system they were up against being ready and willing to change and just needing some focus to show it to be true.

I'm assuming you knew I was being sarcastic. I think that nonviolence can work, but only in a very civilized context. There has to be a sympathetic audience out there who will see their fellow humans getting beaten up and be able to identify with them to some degree. The ones who are actually doing the beating will only be encouraged by their victim's lack of resistance. Nonviolence definitely did not work for me when I was getting bullied in elementary school, but that was only because the place was run my sociopaths.

That sizeable numbers of people living in America think there are real live Nazis roaming around in large numbers that should be pre-emptively killed is astounding and scary. That they imagine they are morally obligated and excused for doing so and that their words and actions don't constitute "hate" is astounding.

They aren't Nazis in a political sense, but they present the same threat if they were to ever organize. For my part I have met plenty of people who hate jews and gays; and I live in a fairly liberal town! They don't dress like Nazis. They don't usually sport racist tattoos; but I can assure you that they are ubiquitous here. All you have to do is subtly imply that you might hate the same people they do and listen to them go off. I can only imagine how many such people exist in any major city. Probably tens of thousands.

If I were Jewish and someone expressed their desire to kill jews, I might decide that a preemptive strike is in order. Is that wrong? Maybe it is; but from a tactical perspective it makes sense to face your enemy at a time and place of your choosing, rather than waiting for them to make the first move.

Wow. Absolutely sickening. You are a repulsive individual.

Scratchme might be right. I said before that it was probably just a psycho, but who knows? All of us, at least once in our lives, have had the urge to stab the stuffing out of another person and we all believed at the time that we'd be justified in doing so. We just don't know yet what set this guy off. Maybe he was psychopathic, deluded or paranoid; but then again, maybe he had another motive that anyone could relate to.

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Racist Antifa Member Goes on Killing Spree of White People, Kills Young Trump Supporter and Wounds Three Others

by kpop in

here is the young man who was murdered with a knife by a racist antifa member last night in austin texas.

rip harrison brown!.

https://imgur.com/a/1qqg7.

Rainbow_Troll

Until they reform, antifa and democrats are two faces of the same terror organization where the only difference is that one half has realized the logical conclusion of the other half’s ideas and has the courage to act upon that conviction. It is similar to the relationship between the Muslim brotherhood/Al Qaeda.

I agree. Every time I hear someone express an opinion I don't agree with, I want to kill them, because I've come to understand, through experience, that no amount of reasoning will ever change their minds. Also, as men like Gandhi and MLK Jr. demonstrated, nonviolence has never and will never change anything. As a liberal, I was the first to get on board with the war on Iraq and Afghanistan because I realize that mass muder is the only true solution to any problem. When will those bleeding heart fools understand?

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Strange stalking from JW's...Please help

by Toshibabadu in

i just recently stopped attending.

i keep getting messages, emails, texts and voice mails asking if i'm ok. they all say the exact same thing.

it's creepy and a bit scary.

Rainbow_Troll

Stalk them back. Start leaving them strange and inappropriate messages on social media. Paint yourself as a real weirdo. Get on your Facebook account and subscribe to all the most tastless feeds like #misanthropicvegananarchist. Trust me, within no time they will be avoiding you like the smelly kid from school.

Rainbow_Troll

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