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What woke you up?

by MrRoboto in

for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

Rainbow_Troll

Though I am now an atheist, what initially woke me up were certain mystical experiences I had as an adolescent that simply did not fit within Watchtower theology. Of course my mom and the elders thought I was demon-possessed, but after reading Evelyn Underhill's excellent survey of mysticism I realized that there was nothing demonic or even particularly 'mystical' about what I was experiencing. Eventually I realized that the traditional religious explanation for these altered states of consciousness was just a lot of unnecessary baggage that created more questions than it answered.

Oh, and there's also the fact that WT theology doesn't hold up to any serious scrutiny and that the Bible is a mass of historical and theological contradictions. The GB should really consider forbidding JWs from reading the Bible or even any WT literature that is more than a decade old.

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Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

what about you?.

Rainbow_Troll

I wouldn't illegalize any religion, but in my world anyone who wishes to embrace one of the Abrahamic faiths would be immediately sterilized, have their children seized by the state and would be prohibited from proselytizing. My reasoning on this is that Abraham was willing to murder his own son because a voice in his head told him to. Christians, Muslims and Jews all seem to agree that this schizophrenic did the right thing in tying his child up and putting a blade to his throat; that God stayed his hand at the last moment is beside the point. Hence, anyone who embraces a religion that honors this man should not be allowed anywhere near children.

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A woman wearing a head covering in subjugation of men - absolutely mental

by jambon1 in

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friends

how did they ever get away with that and how does it go down now, in today's society?.

its fucking mental.

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Rainbow_Troll

Muslim women claim that 'modest' dress liberates them and that western women have been reduced to sex objects. But the truth is that the human female's body is not only Nature's greatest work of art, but her most insideous weapon; Islam understands this. By refusing to objectify their own bodies, Muslim women only disempower themselves. I feel sorry for every girl who grows up in this religion and never experiences the intoxicating power over men that is every woman's birthright.

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Who Do You Think Is HOTTTT?

by minimus in

jw
friends

what attracts you in a male or female?

give me an example or better yet a pic to tell me what you like.😈.

Rainbow_Troll

Tattoos, a bald head, a boyish figure and a really bad attitude. I'm using a picture of Assaj Ventress from Clone Wars because none of my other pictures are fit to post on your little PG forum.

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How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

by JW_Rogue in

look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

Rainbow_Troll

Confusedandangry
My biggest regret is not having children. I thought I'd wait until 'the new system'. Now that I'm almost 38 & 'awake' I think I'm past my child bearing years and it's too late for me. I try not to be angry/bitter about it, but it's hard.

I don't know about that. My mother had me when she was 40 and my dad died seven years later, which means she practically raised me on her own. I wouldn't say I had the best of childhoods, but mine was still better than most and I did survive into adulthood. You might have less energy, but you'll compensate by having greater life experience. A major flaw of our species is that most of us have kids when we are scarcely out of adolescence ourselves. As a firm anti-natalist, I'm in no way advocating you bring another innocent child into this awful world; but there are plenty of lonely, abandoned orphans who wouldn't mind having an older parent.

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How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

by JW_Rogue in

look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

Rainbow_Troll

Bungi Bill: Young persons who are inclined to ought to be at least given the chance to try for a university education, rather than be stopped from even trying by seven old f@#ts in New York.

That's something I can agree with you on 100%! In fact, I think every young person (or older person, for that matter) should get a fair shot at college no matter what family they had the misfortune of being born into. Personal merit should be all that matters, not their family's economic or social status and certainly not their parent's wacky religious beliefs. For every George W. Bush who got into Yale on nothing but money and family connections, there was a truly deserving and intelligent young person who got rejected.

Ttdtt, do your research before being a wise acre. Yes, my experiences are anecdotal (and I have plenty more where those came from) but they are hardly exceptions. Google terms like "student loan crises" "unemployed graduates" "student debt crises" and "college ruined my life".

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What Happens If the JW Beard Policy Stumbles a Person

by Cold Steel in

some of the videos on youtube really make the beard policy look ridiculous.

i wondered what would happen if the jw beard policy caused someone to stumble?

jesus most likely wore a beard, and charles taze russell had a beard.

Rainbow_Troll

Drearyweather, your comparison only emphasizes the fact that the Watchtower Society is a corporation that has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus, a man whose idealistic code of ethics and frequent outbursts of moral indignation would never have been tolerated in a corporate environment.

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What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

by mentalclarity in

so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

Rainbow_Troll

Mentalclarity: I've had this conversation with my JW mom several times where I tell her I can't be in a religion and teach something I'm not convinced of. I ask her if she'd be happy if I just stayed in and "pretended" and how much merit that would have. She usually just stays silent-but she doesn't shun me. Althoug I'm sure it's very disappointing to her, I'd like to think deep down inside she's proud she raised a daughter with some integrity.

I had the same conversation with my mom and she told me to go to the meetings even if I didn't believe. As far as she's concerned, Jehovah values appearances far more than a person's inner convictions.

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What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

by mentalclarity in

so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

Rainbow_Troll

Mentalclarity: we are ostracized and shunned for having moral integrity-standing up for what we believe which is ironic since that is what we're taught to do...

This is what outrages me the most. When I was in, I obeyed most of the rules while my friends led a double life, for which I did not condemn them. But when I openly disagreed with WT doctrine and left, my friends had the nerve to shun me for just being honest about who I was and what I thought!

Good people are applauded for parading their virtues and concealing their vices, as if such vanity were commendable; while the bad are shunned for not having the shame to cover up their shortcomings.

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How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

by JW_Rogue in

look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

Rainbow_Troll

Bungi Bill: I do believe you are something of a bloody troll, coming out with remarks like that!

I like to leave an impression, even if it's a negative one! Anger is usually genuine. Hardly anyone pretends to be angry and even hypocrites feel outrage.

But I stand by what I said: I know some very talented, well educated people who work at shit jobs. Two of my closest friends were both college educated and they're unemployed and homeless. One is a master artist who's paintings have more color, detail and clarity than most photographs I've seen and the other has a MA in medieval history. And no, they aren't addicted to drugs or mentally ill, they just chose the wrong fields.

College is fine if you can afford it and choose your major carefully, but it guarantees nothing and could leave you worse off then you were before. But hey, if you would rather regret the past and feel sorry for yourself, go on believing that not going to college ruined your life. I'm a pessimist; but I have found that in the great casino game of life, pessimism is a lot more practical (and, strangely, consoling) than optimism. People like to delude themselves that they are masters of their fate and their hubris is inevitably punished with disappointment and self-reproach. All we can really hope to control are our own thoughts, feelings and actions; everything else is the domain of chance and chaos.

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