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  How to convince someone to leave.

  by Smiruk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey everyone, long time lurker, first time poster.

  i'm currently in a jehovah's witnesses household, which is very deep into the "truth".

  i woke up a few months ago, and i haven't told my parents yet.

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  Rainbow_Troll

  There are a lot of sound, logical, ethical reason to leave the Watchtower and I encourage you to look into them; but when it comes to your family or any other JW I'm afraid that there is only one reason they will accept: you would rather sin than serve Jehovah. Tell them you're gay, addicted to heroin or whatever and it will be easier on you than if you told them your true reason for leaving.
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  Warning: A. Vogel (JW-run organization) treatments popping up in the US

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i've noticed a few of my local grocery stores are stocking a. vogel homeopathy products.

  a. vogel is a company ran primarily by jehovah's witnesses, the "brains" behind the operation, alfred vogel, has since died but he claimed to be one of the anointed.

  the bolle family (co-founders of the company) is a well-known, (now very wealthy) family in the netherlands and there have been significant "contributions" in the past from the company to the watchtower organization.. alfred vogel was a well-known conman, he claimed blood transfusions would change someone's personality, he claimed to have studied native american herbal healing methods... from a native american tourist photo-op actor.

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  My aunt is into homeopathy which surprised me, since I've always taken her to be fairly intelligent. How anyone who actually understands the principle behind homeopathy (the lesser the dose, the greater the effect) could believe that it works is beyond me!
  

  But maybe I should try it. Something that counter-intuitive must be true. No one could invent homeopathy anymore than someone could invent particle-wave duality or quantum tunneling. Nonsense like that has to be discovered! Genuine pseudo-science always sounds superficially plausible; only the truth can defy common sense.
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  Imagine if Jw ran schools ?

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after learning the alphabet no other education required.

  history would be distorted, science rejected.

  i'm surprised that gb didn't realise there is big money in education, big tony could be the professor of bullshit..

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  Chook: Imagine if JWs ran schools. After learning the alphabet no other education required. History would be distorted, science rejected.

  That's a very interesting conspiracy theory.
  
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  To kill or not to kill

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how many jws would kill a violent rapist in there home or protect their family with lethal means .

  the one thing i love about the usa is the right to defend oneself with lethal force in their own home.

  it's not that i want to kill someone but better them dead than my children..

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  JWs are politically neutral, not pacifists. I can't see anyone who owns a gun hesitating for a second in a situation like that.
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  Who Is An Apostate?

  by NeonMadman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  maybe you've heard the story of a brother in the watchtower's writing department who was very smart, hard working and a good writer.

  we'll call him charley.

  charley was so good, in fact, that he advanced through the ranks and became a co-editor of the watchtower magazine.

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  According to the Oxford English Dictionary an Apostate is "a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle." (Interestingly, the word is derived from the Greek apostatēs, which was a term used to designate a runaway slave.)

  The fact is that any JW who wasn't born into a Jehovah's Witness family, and who practiced a different faith before their conversation, is now an apostate by definition! My mother was raised a Methodist, not a JW. Thus, the moment she decided to abandon her childhood faith and get baptized, she became an apostate. There are so many JWs with similar backgrounds and any JW who calls you an apostate should be reminded of this fact. In fact, an apostate who criticizes others for being apostates is also a hypocrite and we all know how Jesus felt about hypocrisy.
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  "Child abuse is abhorrent to us."

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  birds of a feather flock together.

  australian cardinal george pell: "they are false.

  the whole idea of sexual abuse is abhorrent to me.".

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  Yes, his hypocrisy is disgusting. If it were me I would eagerly confess to my crimes against children, but without the slightest hint of remorse in my voice. I'd tell them, frankly, that there is nothing in the Bible that condemns pedophilia and, in fact, the church has been practicing it for nearly all 2000 years of its history. I would insist that, as a member of the clergy, I am immune to both civil and criminal prosecution per the concordat held between many nations and the church; furthermore, as a citizen of the Vatican, I cannot be extradited on these charges since the Vatican has no extradition treaty with Australia. I would then conclude by telling the Aussies to go fuck a wallaby.
  
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  What the craziest thing you have heard of someone hauled before a judicial committee for ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anything that's true

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  Back when I was about 11 years old my best friend's big sister was tried and DFed for 'kidnapping' after she drove some JW kids to an amusement park without their parent's permission (I don't know where they thought their kids were going). She was so angry that she didn't even apologize or try to get reinstated. Her side of it was that she thought the parents knew and just wanted to do those kids a good turn. For many years I admired that woman, even though I barely knew her. Sadly, she has recently rejoined the flock. I guess it's nice that she and her sis can be buddies again, but I was hoping she would keep it up, since she was the only member of that family to ever leave. Did I mention that she was an elder's daughter?
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  Just had to share.

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  anybody into art out there?

  i was just so blown away by this piece i had to share.. .

  at first i was just like "oh, that's a clever idea".

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  Another artist to add to my collection. Thanks for sharing.
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  What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

  by mentalclarity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

  i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

  some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

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  Rainbow_Troll

  Doubtfully Yours
  I have tried to mingle and find friendships outside of the JW sphere, but it's been totally uncomfortable and even disastrous at times.

  I've had the same problem. Most younger people these days are addicts of one type or another. Worldly 'parties' typically consist of binge drinking and music that is so loud it makes conversation impossible. The majority of young people today are boorish and stupid for a number of reasons: They are suffering from various degrees of brain damage from drug abuse. Most of them were forced to attend shitty public schools that groomed them to despise learning and knowledge. Also, they have to work much harder than previous generations just to pay rent and, due to youthful sex hormones, what little leisure time they have left is spent chasing ass or raising their misbegotten progeny.

  What I finally had to do was stop associating with people my own age and focus on the older generation. Most of my acquaintances are over 60 and I find I have a fairly good rapport with them in spite of the age gap. They've not only acquired a lifetime of knowledge and experience, but since their reproductive and working years are over, they now have plenty of time to think and learn.

  Since older people don't sleep for very long (pituitary gland shrinks and produces less melatonin as you age) the best time to socialize with them is early in the morning; not too long after dawn. Go into any diner, coffee shop or even McDonald's at that time of day and you'll find plenty of potential friends to choose from. Since they are generally ignored by the younger generations, most of them will be very open to starting a conversation, even with a total stranger. If you persist, you might even get invited to some of their parties.

  
  
  
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  What Did You Imagine Jehovah To Look Like?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what did you imagine jehovah to look like?

  i always pictured him like this:.

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  A clean shaven white man with grey hair, eyebrows that were so bushy you couldn't tell whether his eyes were open or closed. He wore a powder blue-grey suit and never smiled. Instead of sitting on a golden throne in heaven, he preferred to look down on us from orbit, much like Superman does in his Fortress of Solitude, except that he wasn't there to protect you, rather he was looking for opportunities to smite you for the smallest of infractions.