who can spot the double-talk in this quote from a new pr brochure series meant for government and media relations?.
the religious activity of jehovah’s witnesses worldwide is overseen by an administrative body, which jehovah’s witnesses refer to as “the governing body.” this group follows the pattern of the first century “apostles and elders” in jerusalem, who shared bible-based information and enabled individual believers to make their own decisions.
(acts 15:2) the governing body recognizes that each individual “will carry his own load” and respects his right of free will to make decisions, as he will bear the responsibility for the results..
"each individual “will carry his own load” ... "he will bear the responsibility for the results" is code for:
CROSS US AND WE WILL DF YOU, MAKE SURE YOU ARE SHUNNED, AND GENERALLY TRY TO MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE.
The dishonesty of thIS religion is astounding. No one is encouraged to make their own decisions. WTC makes the decisions and the R&F parrot them. It's time for the gov't to revoke their tax exempt status.
i recall reading here that a wife was raped at watchtower farms some years ago (can't find it here anymore) by a another bethelite wearing a red flannel shirt.
they found his shirt and booted him.. 'hundreds of new york women are about to sue alleged rapists (and enablers) under a revolutionary new law.
watch out, donald trump.. .
Did they call the police when she reported the CRIME?
what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.
one that comes to mind is.
1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.
When almost every JW family is either shunning or at war with at least one member of their family. This religion has caused more dysfunctionality and division within the family arrangement than any other religion on the surface of this earth. They try to justify the practice by quoting Jesus, but his words have been twisted. Jesus did not command believers to other family members. His words indicate that non-believers would decide to stop being brotherly to believers - not the opposite.
Please take some time and list the number of families you have known who now have one member marked or shunned. It should be an eye-opener.
i recall reading here that a wife was raped at watchtower farms some years ago (can't find it here anymore) by a another bethelite wearing a red flannel shirt.
they found his shirt and booted him.. 'hundreds of new york women are about to sue alleged rapists (and enablers) under a revolutionary new law.
watch out, donald trump.. .
Beth Sarim - you are 100% on point. WTC tried to use me as a fixer to gather estates whose owners did not want to donate. Their behavior was shameful and I was embarassed to be associated with them.
Money is their obsession, similar to other charlatans who fleece their flocks. But in WTC's case, they also go after the treasure in other flocks. Meanwhile, they are not charitable although they enjoy charitable status in most countries that they operate in.
The average JW has no idea of the extent they will go to chase a dollar.
the watchtower—study edition | march 2022. study article 12. do you see what zechariah saw?.
11. what challenges do some of jehovah’s worshippers face today?.
11 change is challenging for many of us.
LHG - You see through WTC but so many do not. I give this a lot of thought on a regular basis and I still don't have a clear answer as to why this is. I know of:
1. Some very intelligent JWs who are not experiencing the detrimental effects of WTC in a severe fashion and they do not acknowledge that it is happening.
2. Others who are not so bright and are now suffering the consequences of following WTC still do not see the control in practice. They vow that the WTC magazine will only be pried out of their cold dead fingers.
3 Then there are the ones who recognize the control of WTC and fade or rebel against it. They may or may not have experienced detrimental life effects from supporting the organization.
In all 3 instances, ample proof was presented to each member but only some woke up, and rightfully left - like yourself. Why is that? There is clearly something missing in some people who are susceptible to cults and cannot leave. Any ideas what it might be? Anyone that ventures a theory or pschoanalysis, I really want to know.
Somehow I hope that we can identify a personality trait that can be reasoned with and maybe some poor souls can be helped.
how much of the preaching hours in yearly report you think are real?
they always have high numbers preaching hours.
probably increase every decade.
Sadly it is mostly games now, moreso than pre-pandemic IMO. I recall not being able to get fellow elders on the Body to go D2D. Most could not doit for one reason or another. If they did, it was just for a few minutes and they were off to an important pre-engagement. Our COBE would not go out in the D2D work for anything. When I realized that it was a lost cause, I stopped asking him to join me. On the larger body, only one MS was regularly out and he wnted to be appointed as an elder. He was not effective at the door.
So, I would have to swag a percentage of about 5% being actual preaching. Cart Witnessing IS NOT PREACHING, it is cart baby sitting. There are some zealous pioneers still doing something meaningful with their time but it is rare. When the hour requirement was dropped, all the new pio's jumped on the bandwagon but few increased their hours at all.
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
Jan, it's an interesting question for me since I have not embraced the holidays. I guess because I never celebrated, it seems silly for me to start now. I don't criticize anyone who does celebrate though. Frankly, there is waaaay too much criticism in the world as it is.
a simple " me" if you dont want to say more--or a short explanation about who is shunning you and how long has this been going on.. i'll set the ball rolling: my daughter--her husband and children; my younger son --no contact from them for 40 years...because i left their religion.. (edit--i just noticed the typo in the header--if should be of ).
I faded and all my JW family now shuns me. Almost all of my old friends in the org shun me. Some have reached out to persuade me to return so I blocked them. I really hate that the religion has broken up so many families and friends. They truly are wicked and hateful. I could almost overlook the false doctrines, but the lack of love was too much to ignore. After all, true Christians are supposed to be identified by love - I never saw it...
thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.
Hopeless - I think you have their number. I never expected them to be perfect, but I did expect honesty, which they lack altogether. They tell so many lies that I now believe exactly the opposite of everything they say. They lack scholarly skills and just expect the R&F to accept any non-sensical interpretation they float. Let me add that they have been that way since Rutherford.
the comments underneath the article are almost as interesting as the article.. .
https://mercatornet.com/secrecy-confession-england-wales/81615/.
Ernest, Sounds like the same old song and dance of WTC.
It is a crime and should be reported. let the police/DA sort out whether to press charges. Why are JWs trying to be judge, jury and executioner all in one?
Has their policy not done enough damage to countless lives?
i asked a relative what she would do if her young daughter was raped by the neighbor. She exploded and immediately said that she would call the police . But what if he was a JW? She reversed course. When will the insanity end?????
