WTC has tried to relax the repercussions of accepting a BT for legal reasons. They also know that most JWs do not understand the blood policy and it's complexity/contradictions. They would like to drop it altogether but doing so would open a floodgate of lawsuits from JWs who were affected adversely by the policy. For all those who have lost family members, do some research to determine whether or not the policy is scriptural. It should be an eye-opener.
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Will JWs throw you under the bus if you have a transfusion?
by Vanderhoven7 inmark writes.
"if a person accepts a blood transfusion, the jehovah’s witness elders are required to “investigate” to see if the person is sorry for “cowardly” saving their life.
if the person doesnt beg and grovel to the elders for allowing the doctor to save their life (or that of their child) then the elders can take this as a sign that he/she has disassociated from the congregation - and tell the congregation to start shunning them.. if someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual’s attitude.
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by enoughisenough ini have a friend in another state that doesn't know i disassociated.
i have come right out and said on more than one occasion when talking about what the bible says verses the wt, that we are being duped.
the person tends to agree but then buries their head in the sand and forgets.
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Barbara Anderson is one of the most honest, accurate advocates for truth that I have ever known. Her research into the issues at WTC are beyond question from what I know and can testify to as a personal witness. Some well-intentioned persons have embellished or confused facts about WTC, but Barbara only writes what is confirmed as the actual facts. She rarely speculates, but on the rare occasion that she does, she clearly makes it known for what it is. Is my recommendation glowing enough?
There is a wealth of information available on her site.
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There was a Walkill Bethelite years ago who was caught peeping at the airport and arrested. They traced his residence back to Bethel and showed up with a warrant to search his room. His personal closet was FULL of Child Sex Abuse material. He was a high-volume perpetrator.
Bethel DF'd him as quickly as possible at the jail to avoid the stigma that he was an active JW - well he was an active JW.
Personal closets were not cleaned by housekeepers, but they were shared by roomates. I never believed that others at Bethel didn't know that the guy was a serial child porn addict. Bethel keeps tabs on everyone there most of the time. It would be quite a challenge for his overseer and co-workers not to figure out that there was a problem.
He was sentenced to many years - I think he is still in prison.
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Jehovah's Witnesses keep "making God's name known".."...search warrant executed at Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses"
by Balaamsass2 ini like to check google news for "jehovah" every month to see what's new...".
man suspected of sexually assaulting a child, search warrant executed at kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses near woodland park" "teller county, colo. (kktv) - a 60-year-old man is suspected of sexually assaulting a child in the woodland park area.. the teller county sheriff’s office announced the arrest of shawn lance swisher on tuesday.. “a search warrant of swisher’s residence was also completed at the time of his arrest,” part of a news release issued by the teller county sheriff’s office reads.
“the second search warrant was executed at the kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses near woodland park.
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I was reading another thread about Ted Jaracz from 16-22 years ago. Some of the posters expressed concern that maybe the Watchtower was being treated unfairly. Fast forward to December 2022. I wonder if they still feel that way given the number of cases WTC has settled and/or lost in court where indisputable evidence was presented. How do they feel today knowing that over 24,000 molesters are listed in their 3 databases which are air-gapped at Patterson (according to a CO and corroborated by plaintif attorneys).
Do they also believe that Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein were railroaded? I don't care for false accusations either but children lying about these types of things is rarer than elephants in Alaska. WTC seems to think that pressuring R&F to disbelieve such accusations as the ravings of apostates is the way to go. However, as the past few years indicate, there are many conspiracy theories being proven that were initially debunked.
When it comes to the welfare of children, it is ALWAYS best to listen and investigate, rather than to dismiss as lies.
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Ted Jaracz - the accused
by Nathan Natas inat the silentlambs march in brooklyn ny on september 27, 2002 a woman made a public statement which began, .
i'm pat garza, and i'm here today because i was raped by theodore jaracz when i was a little girl, in the city of los angeles, he was district servant.
there are two boys; their initials are "m.v.
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Ted never faced the investigative committee. Instead, he had Garrett Loesch form a JC and DF them. They appealed and one was still at Bethel the last time I heard, although they made his life miserable for a long time. Ted survived the accusation until his death using heavy handed persuasion, his usual way of confronting dissenters.
As for whether he actually did what Pat accused him of doing, we may never know. What we do know is that he was dismissed from the Australia Branch for unchristian conduct. He was allowed back into full-time service after a year and later came to Brooklyn where he was appointed to the GB years later.
The files on Ted are sealed, but insiders have more detail on why he was removed from Australia Bethel.
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need help from good elder
by enoughisenough ini have a friend in another state that doesn't know i disassociated.
i have come right out and said on more than one occasion when talking about what the bible says verses the wt, that we are being duped.
the person tends to agree but then buries their head in the sand and forgets.
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I wish that shining a bright light on the CSA issue would wake up PIMIs but I am skeptical. Indoctrinated cult followers seem to have a strong denial reflex that prevents them from coping with reality. It seems that unless a person personally deals with their cognitive dissonance, they can't be persuaded otherwise. Many are leaving but it is because they desired freedom, got some freedom, and now they are clawing their way out. For those who are happy being controlled, they can't be shaken out like almonds on the tree.
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Jehovah's Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhttps://www.statsforvalteren.no/nb/oslo-og-viken/folk-og-samfunn/tros--og-livssynssamfunn/jehovas-vitner-taper-registrering-som-trossamfunn/.
published december 22, 2022. the state manager in oslo and viken has decided to withdraw jehovah's witnesses registration as a religious community under the religious society act.. .
we sent a notice to jehovah's witnesses about possible loss of registration on october 25 this year.
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Longhairgal, the congregations were the net they relied on for decades. "No worries about the fallout from bad policies, good hearted ones like Longhairgal will dig deep into their bank accounts and help them." Now they are seeing that isn't true and they don't know where to turn. Argentina is waiting as a Get Out of Jail card. In the meantime, they will tighten the controls in an effort to corral the sheep back into the pin. For the ones that they cannot get back, they turn into pariahs.
GOOD on you for seeing it for yourself and doing the smart thing, the wise thing. I am happy for you and admire your thinking. It's too bad others don't have the wherewithal to do the same.
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Jehovah's Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhttps://www.statsforvalteren.no/nb/oslo-og-viken/folk-og-samfunn/tros--og-livssynssamfunn/jehovas-vitner-taper-registrering-som-trossamfunn/.
published december 22, 2022. the state manager in oslo and viken has decided to withdraw jehovah's witnesses registration as a religious community under the religious society act.. .
we sent a notice to jehovah's witnesses about possible loss of registration on october 25 this year.
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Hellothere - they fantasized that they could make it as an ereligion, online only, but the pandemic convinced them that they cannot maintain the control if the R&F do not attend in person. They get a taste of freedom, they stop paying attention, they stop contributing, they fade and quit altogether. The Video center plans for Ramapo won't save them. They will milk the donation request until they have to put up or shut up. I will be surprised if they get underway with real construction.
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Jehovah's Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhttps://www.statsforvalteren.no/nb/oslo-og-viken/folk-og-samfunn/tros--og-livssynssamfunn/jehovas-vitner-taper-registrering-som-trossamfunn/.
published december 22, 2022. the state manager in oslo and viken has decided to withdraw jehovah's witnesses registration as a religious community under the religious society act.. .
we sent a notice to jehovah's witnesses about possible loss of registration on october 25 this year.
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Vidiot, WTC is making more than their share of unforced errors. This is an indicator that they are panicked, have lost control, are desperate. They are spooked over apostates, attendance in person, government inquiries, CSA lawsuits and more. Their reactions speak volumes about the dire state of their situation.
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Jehovah's Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhttps://www.statsforvalteren.no/nb/oslo-og-viken/folk-og-samfunn/tros--og-livssynssamfunn/jehovas-vitner-taper-registrering-som-trossamfunn/.
published december 22, 2022. the state manager in oslo and viken has decided to withdraw jehovah's witnesses registration as a religious community under the religious society act.. .
we sent a notice to jehovah's witnesses about possible loss of registration on october 25 this year.
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Beth Sarim,
That is probably true. Here are some other possibilities:
1. WTC was leveraged to some financiers who made acquisition of those properties possible for many years. I am told that they told WTC that they had to be paid back when the properties were sold. It was a large amount.
2. Warwick ran so far over budget that WTC finally took off all constraints and told Construction to "just finish it - don't worry about the cost". It is thought to have exceeded $1 billion when it was completed. Some buildings remain unfinished.
3. CSA settlements have exceeded anyone's expectations, but they pale in comparison to other costs. Nevertheless, they are cash expenditures so the pain is severe. Non-JW attorneys have been hired to field many of the cases, and they are very expensive compared to free JW attorneys. Legal is overwhelmed by all the cases as statures of limitations are lifted in one place after another.
4. WTC was heavily invested in hedge funds that lost lots of money in the downturns of 2008, 2015, 2018, and 2020.
5. WTC had billions in offshore accounts and had to abide by US laws that allow such investments but have many rules on how long the money must be invested before being removed. The losses were heavy as they were unable to move the money as market downturns occurred.
6. The aging Bethel families, CO's and SP's have stipends and health coverage direct from Watchtower. The costs are significant. Efforts to reduce costs include retirement homes with dedicated nursing/doctors where costs can be more predictable. Some SP's have been dropped from the coverage and many Bethelites have been sent out to fend for themselves. Young Bethelites have been invited in to reduce costs but it is not a solution. The down-sizing continues.
6. Donations are down because so many are leaving. Elderly who were the largest contributors are passing away. Younger JWs do not contribute as much as their parents did.
7. Special projects like the Argentina facility have been pricey, built with commercial labor. They are the "GO BAGS for the GB" in all likelihood.
There are other drains on their cash but these are the big ones. If there was malfeasance in Treasury, it is not known at this time. They are hurting financially, thus the continual pleas for money. What comes in is considerably less than what is needed and they cannot get a handle on spending.