Posts by ThomasMore

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burning another bridge

by enoughisenough in

i feel like i am burning another "friend" bridge.

i just can't seem to keep the lies the wt prints to myself!

i don't know how the pimo do it!

ThomasMore

Sorry eie, but it is almost impossible to shake JWs out of their tree like almonds. From my experience, they either leave on their own or they don't leave at all.

My old friends and family shun me and I never sent them anything to expose WTC. I was never DF'd or DA'd but the result is the same - they hate me and I have no respect for them. Truthfully, the shunning made it easier to complete my fade and stay out. I see them for what they really are, and I will never go back. I have a new set of friends now and I am happier than I have ever been. And, I have no illusions that I can keep any old friends who are still in.

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Search Warrants Issued for KH & Residence, CSA Arrest

by Tahoe in

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full article .

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He was Jesus Cano, a Walkill bethelite who according to reports "traveled around the U.S." as part of his work at Bethel. He was 50 years old, caught in Chicago. The number of victims was very high, never announced the actual number.

How did WTC put that fire out? He was an ACTIVE Bethelite. Where are the lawsuits? Shame on you WTC!

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How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

by Longlivetherenegades in

from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

the organization answers: .

ThomasMore

As to how manyJWs there really are now - consider this:

KHs have been sold on a scale never seen before. according to reports
Congregations have been dissolved and consolidated to adjust for low attendance
Some cities have reduced congregations by more than 50%
The UK has seen the greatest reduction of congregations on record
Reports from R&F say that meeting in person attendance averageds 35-50%
Faders in the 16-35 range are off the charts
Elderly are passing away rapidly and many are confined to home due to health
Childbirth among JWs seems to be down (this is anecdotal) and even born-ins are leaving in record numbers as teenagers
New JWs coming in are almost unheard of
DFing has been expanded so that ANY undesirables can be kicked out
Shunning is regularly encouraged in the WT and at meetings

I suspect that the real number of members is closer to 4.5 million. WTC will never admit this as they massage the numbers to justify 8.5 million. Admitting the truth would result in further shrinkage.

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Will JWs throw you under the bus if you have a transfusion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

mark writes.

"if a person accepts a blood transfusion, the jehovah’s witness elders are required to “investigate” to see if the person is sorry for “cowardly” saving their life.

if the person doesnt beg and grovel to the elders for allowing the doctor to save their life (or that of their child) then the elders can take this as a sign that he/she has disassociated from the congregation - and tell the congregation to start shunning them.. if someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual’s attitude.

ThomasMore

WTC has tried to relax the repercussions of accepting a BT for legal reasons. They also know that most JWs do not understand the blood policy and it's complexity/contradictions. They would like to drop it altogether but doing so would open a floodgate of lawsuits from JWs who were affected adversely by the policy. For all those who have lost family members, do some research to determine whether or not the policy is scriptural. It should be an eye-opener.

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need help from good elder

by enoughisenough in

i have a friend in another state that doesn't know i disassociated.

i have come right out and said on more than one occasion when talking about what the bible says verses the wt, that we are being duped.

the person tends to agree but then buries their head in the sand and forgets.

ThomasMore

Barbara Anderson is one of the most honest, accurate advocates for truth that I have ever known. Her research into the issues at WTC are beyond question from what I know and can testify to as a personal witness. Some well-intentioned persons have embellished or confused facts about WTC, but Barbara only writes what is confirmed as the actual facts. She rarely speculates, but on the rare occasion that she does, she clearly makes it known for what it is. Is my recommendation glowing enough?

There is a wealth of information available on her site.

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Search Warrants Issued for KH & Residence, CSA Arrest

by Tahoe in

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full article .

ThomasMore

There was a Walkill Bethelite years ago who was caught peeping at the airport and arrested. They traced his residence back to Bethel and showed up with a warrant to search his room. His personal closet was FULL of Child Sex Abuse material. He was a high-volume perpetrator.

Bethel DF'd him as quickly as possible at the jail to avoid the stigma that he was an active JW - well he was an active JW.

Personal closets were not cleaned by housekeepers, but they were shared by roomates. I never believed that others at Bethel didn't know that the guy was a serial child porn addict. Bethel keeps tabs on everyone there most of the time. It would be quite a challenge for his overseer and co-workers not to figure out that there was a problem.

He was sentenced to many years - I think he is still in prison.

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Jehovah's Witnesses keep "making God's name known".."...search warrant executed at Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses"

by Balaamsass2 in

i like to check google news for "jehovah" every month to see what's new...".

man suspected of sexually assaulting a child, search warrant executed at kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses near woodland park" "teller county, colo. (kktv) - a 60-year-old man is suspected of sexually assaulting a child in the woodland park area.. the teller county sheriff’s office announced the arrest of shawn lance swisher on tuesday.. “a search warrant of swisher’s residence was also completed at the time of his arrest,” part of a news release issued by the teller county sheriff’s office reads.

“the second search warrant was executed at the kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses near woodland park.

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I was reading another thread about Ted Jaracz from 16-22 years ago. Some of the posters expressed concern that maybe the Watchtower was being treated unfairly. Fast forward to December 2022. I wonder if they still feel that way given the number of cases WTC has settled and/or lost in court where indisputable evidence was presented. How do they feel today knowing that over 24,000 molesters are listed in their 3 databases which are air-gapped at Patterson (according to a CO and corroborated by plaintif attorneys).

Do they also believe that Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein were railroaded? I don't care for false accusations either but children lying about these types of things is rarer than elephants in Alaska. WTC seems to think that pressuring R&F to disbelieve such accusations as the ravings of apostates is the way to go. However, as the past few years indicate, there are many conspiracy theories being proven that were initially debunked.

When it comes to the welfare of children, it is ALWAYS best to listen and investigate, rather than to dismiss as lies.

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Ted Jaracz - the accused

by Nathan Natas in

at the silentlambs march in brooklyn ny on september 27, 2002 a woman made a public statement which began, .

i'm pat garza, and i'm here today because i was raped by theodore jaracz when i was a little girl, in the city of los angeles, he was district servant.

there are two boys; their initials are "m.v.

ThomasMore

Ted never faced the investigative committee. Instead, he had Garrett Loesch form a JC and DF them. They appealed and one was still at Bethel the last time I heard, although they made his life miserable for a long time. Ted survived the accusation until his death using heavy handed persuasion, his usual way of confronting dissenters.

As for whether he actually did what Pat accused him of doing, we may never know. What we do know is that he was dismissed from the Australia Branch for unchristian conduct. He was allowed back into full-time service after a year and later came to Brooklyn where he was appointed to the GB years later.

The files on Ted are sealed, but insiders have more detail on why he was removed from Australia Bethel.

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need help from good elder

by enoughisenough in

i have a friend in another state that doesn't know i disassociated.

i have come right out and said on more than one occasion when talking about what the bible says verses the wt, that we are being duped.

the person tends to agree but then buries their head in the sand and forgets.

ThomasMore

I wish that shining a bright light on the CSA issue would wake up PIMIs but I am skeptical. Indoctrinated cult followers seem to have a strong denial reflex that prevents them from coping with reality. It seems that unless a person personally deals with their cognitive dissonance, they can't be persuaded otherwise. Many are leaving but it is because they desired freedom, got some freedom, and now they are clawing their way out. For those who are happy being controlled, they can't be shaken out like almonds on the tree.

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Jehovah's Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://www.statsforvalteren.no/nb/oslo-og-viken/folk-og-samfunn/tros--og-livssynssamfunn/jehovas-vitner-taper-registrering-som-trossamfunn/.

published december 22, 2022. the state manager in oslo and viken has decided to withdraw jehovah's witnesses registration as a religious community under the religious society act.. .

we sent a notice to jehovah's witnesses about possible loss of registration on october 25 this year.

ThomasMore

Longhairgal, the congregations were the net they relied on for decades. "No worries about the fallout from bad policies, good hearted ones like Longhairgal will dig deep into their bank accounts and help them." Now they are seeing that isn't true and they don't know where to turn. Argentina is waiting as a Get Out of Jail card. In the meantime, they will tighten the controls in an effort to corral the sheep back into the pin. For the ones that they cannot get back, they turn into pariahs.

GOOD on you for seeing it for yourself and doing the smart thing, the wise thing. I am happy for you and admire your thinking. It's too bad others don't have the wherewithal to do the same.