Posts by ThomasMore

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The boy who has cried wolf - for nearly 140 years!

by BoogerMan in

"when will this hope be fulfilled?

the bible foretold events that would signal that god’s kingdom is about to begin its rule over the earth.

present world conditions match what the bible foretold.

ThomasMore

WTC's MULTI-GENERATIONAL CONTROL

I have never faulted sincere students of the Bible who have a sense of urgency for recognizing the fulfillment of Bible prophecy.

THE GULLIBLE

However, it is common for someone who longs for change to draw false conclusions since their desire for change clouds judgement and reason.

THE CHARLATANS

It is also common for charlatans to manipulate others who share the desire for a friendlier world to live in.

Enter WTC - they are master manipulators of people. In my case, my great grandparents lived their lives, holding their breaths expecting the end of the system. Then my grandparents bought into the scheme which benefitted WTC financially. Then my parents dramatically aligned their lives to walk in lock-step with WTC , expecting to be in the scenic pictures published in the pages of the printed material by WTC. My siblings also followed the life-altering teachings and refused to benefit themselves by education that WTC condemned. Now their children are doing likewise and they hope that their children will do likewise as they get older.

ENDING THE CYCLE OF CONTROL

My family represents 5 generations of devotion to WTC. They have virtually no communication with anyone in the family who chooses not follow WTC. I believe that this cycle will end as availability of factual exposure grows. Posters on this site and others have provided the illumination that should help sincere persons to see through the WTC ruse. The balanced comments have great value. I thank all the ones who take the time to add their feedback and experiences, and to the administrator who keeps the site going. Your efforts have made a positive difference in my life.

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

ThomasMore

Balaamsass2,

WTC's refusal to provide financial transparency is not due to pools of cash they are bathing in. It is because the members equate divine blessings with cash. They are strapped financially and need to sell KH's to make ends meet.

La Francia's comments are spot on and I know them to be true.

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Is 1st Century advice on marriage still relevant in today’s modern world?

by liam in

republicans want to make a law that forbids ‘uncontested divorce”.

they based this on this scripture.. matthew 19. is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”.

4 “haven’t you read,” jesus replied, “that at the beginning the creator ‘made them male and female,’and said, ‘for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ so they are no longer two, but one flesh.

ThomasMore

Reported on by The Guardian, NPR and Bloomberg. Very little "push" by republicans...

Here is an excerpt from NPR:

"RASCOE: Well, so in your view, do you think that this effort by some conservatives to get rid of no-fault divorce - do you think it has legs, or is this more of a talking point?

GROSSMAN: I think it's hard to say. I think five years ago, I would have said, there's no way one of these bills would pass because it's sort of too ridiculous and doesn't make any sense. But I've seen things pass in the past couple of years that I would have classified as kind of equally implausible. I think this is less likely to pass because it would really wreak havoc on the family court system, right?"

This is a left talking point to stir up anger. No possiblility of adoption by anyone to even sponsor a vote in the House.

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Is 1st Century advice on marriage still relevant in today’s modern world?

by liam in

republicans want to make a law that forbids ‘uncontested divorce”.

they based this on this scripture.. matthew 19. is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”.

4 “haven’t you read,” jesus replied, “that at the beginning the creator ‘made them male and female,’and said, ‘for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ so they are no longer two, but one flesh.

ThomasMore

What republicans? I have not heard anyone speak out on this subject at all.

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

ThomasMore

Magnum - I PM'd you.

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

ThomasMore

Balaamsass2 - ...and yet they have a cash flow problem that forces them to sell KHs to keep their nose above the waterline.

I have heard estimates on the CSA payout totals but no one really knows. Silent Lambs says it is over $200 million but that does not include court cases. Who knows since they provide ZERO TRANSPARENCY into their expenditures. I only know that the claims are coming in at an alarming rate and they are paying everything with NDA's in place.

They still have a real estate empire but I suspect that most are leveraged to the hilt to provide the operating expenses needed - which are incredibly high due to maintenance, healthcare, stipends and CSA settlements. Donations have decreased dramatically and many congregations are unable to meet their monthly expenses which threatens the monthly donation. Fear of having their KH sold drives them to dig deep for the monthly donation, otherwise the KH ceases to have value and is summarily sold form under the congregation.

WTC is using commercial firms for most maintenance since they cannot rely on volunteer labor like they used to do. Also, they don't want to be accused of using volunteer labor just prior to selling of a KH. They have contracted with commercial firms all over the country and they send them to do large projects that are needed just before a property is liquidated.

Someone (a non-JW) recently asked me if JWs would help a friend that is an active JW in need of financial help. Sadly, that is not ever going to happen. I explained that WTC does not do charitable work, even for their own members despite their tax exempt status.

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

ThomasMore

Not Former - LDC is Local Design Committee and RBC is Regional Building Committee.

RBC is defunct now. LDC does some coordinating but not much else. As you are probably aware, money flows into Watchtower Corporation but does not flow out. They don't spend unless they have a plan to make money.

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Overlapping Generation

by pandorasbox1914 in

the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

ThomasMore

The generation explanation using goats is charming....... and funny.

For WTC's benefit however, their explanation is not appropriate if the definition of "generation" includes contemporaries. This would mean that Adam was of the same generation as my recently born niece. There were always overlaps and will always be overlaps.

A generation is the length of time that ONE person lives (on average) until his offspring is born, who then represents the next generation. They may overlap but they are 2 generations.

David Splane - did you get that? My neighbor has some goldfish if you need me to illustrate.

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Cedar Point Ohio 🙄🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

by xaminewt in

i started doubting the organization when i was 15. i spent the next 12 years doing in-depth research involving numerous emails with bible scholars and scientists.

i finally left the organisation 3 years ago.

technically i was never actually a jw as i was never baptised, so i’m not being shunned.

ThomasMore

I recall summer conventions that included resolutions that were intended to stir the attendees. They were pitiful attempts to make WTC sound like they were spiritually significant. As a young person, I was floored at the chicanery and wondered if others were also.

Cedar Point was such a silly place to drive a prophetic stake in the ground. WTC was depending on the naivete of the publishers to float such a stretch.

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Cedar Point Ohio 🙄🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

by xaminewt in

i started doubting the organization when i was 15. i spent the next 12 years doing in-depth research involving numerous emails with bible scholars and scientists.

i finally left the organisation 3 years ago.

technically i was never actually a jw as i was never baptised, so i’m not being shunned.

ThomasMore

Journeyman - all valid points that most of us see clearly here, but few in the Organization will admit.