DFing is essential to JWs. It will only be "pryed from their cold dead fingers" like a handgun. Without DFing, they fear the eye-opening influence that former members might exert on PIMIs. But wait! There's more! Now they shun inactive ones for the same reason. But wait! There's even more!!! They have begun to shun ACTIVE members that they have issue with - yes for the same reason. They are devouring one another and there is no stopping them. "DONNER PARTY of 4,000,000. Your table is ready!"
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Shunning Disfellowshipped & Apostate family Members. Scriptural?
by objectivetruth inanyone who is a witness or was previously a witness, is aware of the written & un-written rules concerning association with disfellowshipped family members.. there are a multitude of quotes through out the watchtower publications, but these 2 will suffice.. "are you proving yourself holy by not associating with family members or others who are disfellowshipped?
"the clear instruction in the bible is: avoid them.
that means that we have to stay away from them... the bible says that apostates are mentally diseased and that they use their teachings to make others think like them... what must we do to avoid false teachers?
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Do you pray?
by Fisherman ini’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..
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I agree with Vanderhoven. Although I prayed to Jehovah for decades, it dawned on me after some research that if God really wanted us to use his proper name, he would reveal it along with the proper pronunciation. The scriptures had 1400 pages to make that clear if it was his wish. Going beyond what is written and turning it into a religion seems like the wrong thing to do. I began to acknowledge him as Father, just as a son speaks to his own father. It seems to be more respectful IMO and inline with how Jesus addressed him.
My old JW acquaintances are dogmatic about using Jehovah but cold on Yahweh or any form of the earlier reference to him as if they would be apostate. They have not researched the origin of "Jehovah" and won't consider that earlier church fathers mislead them.
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Local congregation donation and expense report. Very telling
by nowwhat? inin july the congregation received $2300.00.
only 40.00 for the worldwide work and zero for ramapo project!!!.
if this is typical no wonder the org.
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Before I left, I recall a serious discussion at a BOE mtg. The dollar amount for the month was less than $100 above what I gave! Obviously the BOE and the COBE leading the discussion had given nothing. I realized that the heart of the congregation was trending toward no donations. The Branch put the KH on the market soon after that.
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Pursue Peace Assembly 2022 .. Joseph shares stories about his Bible days
by RULES & REGULATIONS inpursue peace assembly 2022 shows a resurrected, newly shaven joseph, the son of jacob and rachel, having a nice dinner at a beautiful restaurant in the new system.
the survivors of armageddon all want to know if joseph can share stories about his life.. ''can you tell us what egypt was like?
what was pharaoh like?''.
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Fantasy film making at it's best. Surely no one with a clear sense of reality would buy into this form of dishonest teaching.
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JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted
by BoogerMan inseptember 2022 study watchtower - par.
14 p. 18 - "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.
the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death.
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We are witnessing the internal collapse of their teaching and writing. From the 1st word in an article to the last word, the writer wanders from Adam to Armageddon making dogmatic statements followed by contradicting dogmatic statements. Does anyone still believe that WTC has any spiritual insight? Let the reader use discernment.
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Investment departments in Bethel
by Mikejw ini was a bethelite in london for many years then got reassigned to the field and then went on brd from the start of chelmsford right upto covid.. during my years at the branch i was sometimes asked to be on a team who went to homes donated to the branch when some older one died.. this happenes an awful lot, everything is left to the branch in the will.
the unbelieving family is furious they didn’t get left anything and sometimes they tried to get their elderly relatives possessions and there was a legal battle .
but in the end a team of us would go and empty the property and another team would clean it up and put it on the market to sell it for the worldwide work.. all the possessions were sorted into trash or possibly valuable .
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I don't want to throw cold water on anyone's theory, but I think (only my idea mind you) that the reason the GB is given to wearing the rings is that 1. They are insecure and it makes them feel like they have more clout and presence when they are adorned with gold 2. They secretly wish that they were wearing University rings that would make them more credible as leaders of a multi-billion dollar religious/business corporation.
These men are both arrogant AND insecure at the same time. They envy the degree'd Bethelites they have doing their legal work and other licensed activity that requires a degree from a university or college. To me, this is the saddest part of all. I have never thought that they were masons or part of a secret order. They are just unlettered, ordinary men who want to be lettered and extraordinary.
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The real story on why The Watchtower society lost a Kingdom hall in Bonham ,Texas.!
by koolaid-man inwhat happened in bonham, texas?
: the body of elders and the majority of the congregation decided to leave the watch tower organization.
and with that, they took the kingdom hall.
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Enough is Enough - what you described is more common than most people would believe. It has been going on since Menlo Park and will not end until WTC liquidates all the assets the pubs have. Surprised? Don’t be.
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Ali Millar
by jonahstourguide inhi all.. a news article regarding ali millar popped up on abc here in australia.. some of you folks in the uk may have heard of her.. she has released a book entitled 'the last days'.
i guess from the article that her story rings true to anyone aware of the wt religions' modus operandi.. here is the link and i will paste some of the news article.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-09/ali-millar-jehovahs-witnesses-leaving-her-religion-being-shunned/101266998.
ali millar's upbringing in the jehovah's witnesses was traumatic.
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Spot on BB!
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Who do you think leaked the Trump documents location to the FBI?
by GabeAthouse inwas it melania?
don jr?
or gary busey's son, eric trump?.
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Is there anyone here who can tell us if Adam Schiff is a good kisser? I suspect there is - time to come clean!
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How far do we get away from 1914
by PimoElder inhow far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.
they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .
with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.
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607 BCE vs 587 BCE
Using WTC interpretation, even the 587 BCE date results in a generation that is now 88+ years old. The gymnastics required to justify a generation as 88 years would make Olga Corbett proud.
The first step on the road to recovery is the hardest because it requires a change of direction.