Hiddenservant - Since WTC is once again a card-carrying NGO of the UN, how is it that they will be desolated by the UN, which does not devour it's own?
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When will the Watchtower Society be desolated?
by Hiddenservant indid you know that the answer is provided in the scriptures through the 70 weeks prophecy?.
daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy explained.. the 70 weeks were split into three parts.
here is the reason why.. the prophecy is not only about the messiah, it is also about god’s people and the holy city, as verse 24 makes clear.
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Trust Our (Neither Inspired Nor Infallible) Life Saving Direction?
by Ron.W. inwt 2013 11/15 p. 20. at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. wt feb 2017.
"the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
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The baptism questions used to reference "God's spirit-directed organization". If it is spirit-directed but they are not inspired, how does that work exactly? Please be specific.
Let me run to the restroom before you answer so that I don't pee my pants laughing.
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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Vidiot and Notformer - WTC can't move fast enough to counter the exodus of young JWs. They can't affords to move slowly - seriously.
I liken it to a Pizza parlor manager yelling at disgusted customers as they run away:
"Don't over-react - it's just a rat! We are offering 2 slices for 1. I'm adding WIFI too and emptying the garbage! Did you hear me? The toilets are being un-stopped and new rat traps are on the way! I bought deodorant and new underwear - and gloves - and washing hands after the bathroom is suggested for all waiters and kitchen staff! Hey, did you hear me??!!
Based on all the bad PR from Europe, Australia, New Zealand and other places where decent people still have moral compasses, I think they waited too long to stop flipping the bird to publishers.
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Will recent dress-code changes affect the WTS negatively?
by Wonderment inin a span of a few months time, we have had many unexpected changes announced by the jw organization.
some here have expressed the belief that a great number of witnesses will leave the religion.
in fact, there is a great probability the opposite will be true.. yeah, ancient hardliners will have a hard time assimilating these changes, but the younger generation will likely welcome these changes.
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A cable company offered me a month free if I subscribed to their more expensive, poor service.
Are JWs naive enough to believe that young JWs will return or opt to stay because the standard of dress is now less formal??????
WTC fails to understand that people are leaving in droves because the religion is high control. The teachings do not satisfy the appetites of spiritually hungry people. How hard is that to understand?
What they really need is a free t-shirt - or a duffel bag even.....
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consequences for going against the direction.
by jehovaxx inthere are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.
there are no consequences for going against the direction.
we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.
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I resigned and left on my own - never went back. I was shunned as soon as I resigned. Like many others, my life is now much better so why would I EVER consider going back??!!
Shunning has been a gift to me since I no longer have to deal with the toxicity of JWs. I have been out long enough to see WTC and JWs for what they really are. Have you?
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Will New Rules Bring JWs Together or Pull Them Apart?
by doinmypart inthere's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.
you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.
but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?
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A friend who is Methodist told me their church does something similar to DFing but calls it unassociating a person or something to that effect. It has to be something pretty serious and is VERY rare to see it invoked. When it is, a person can get right back in if they stop what they were doing and seek appropriate help to change. The rest of the members do not stop talking to the person, they simply curtail some social engagement, and even that is left to the decision of each individual.
When this step has been taken, they say almost all of the disciplined persons change and come immediately back.
I think this is where WTC wants to be. They care little about actual purity and consider it highly subjective anyway. Those in the know tell me that WTC is under tremendous pressure to change and to stem the tide of leavers and fresh crops of apostates planted with their harsh policies. They also cannot continue funding the enormous expense of defending cases against them.
I have not heard some of the wild talk Redsetter2 wrote about, but I am aware that celebrating birthdays will be acceptable by October this year. Thats about it. Some guidelines will apply.
So far, all these changes don’t represent much. Most are simply a move toward informalizing the cult to make it easier to be in. In so doing, WTC is opening a Pandoras box as JWs are already beginning to devour one another with criticism.
If you don’t actually have the truth, everything you say and do will be stained with what is false and confused.
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At least the GB are honest enough to say that no apology is necessary (translated: "We will not be apologizing").
If they ever apologized, I would be so confused at the 180 degree change that I might start walking in circles. I depend on the consistency of their arrogance and they NEVER let me down.
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Former Kingdom Hall is now a Swaminarayan Temple!
by Atlantis inthis former kingdom hall is now a hindu swaminarayan temple!
to the far right of the picture, the two tower pillars are obvious by the red and green flags.
https://pdfupload.io/docs/d8e6115a .
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The Hindus have colorful robes that make them look like they are having a special gathering even when they are just doing their daily thing. They seem to be nice folks - maybe they can put the old building to better use than the JW's did.
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ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.
long island business news.
march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.
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DOC - they actually do have corporate bylaws that state that they will retire some special full-time servants at the corporations' expense. This primarily applies to Bethelites with XX years of seniority and age. In recent years though, they have sent many "back to the field" just before they reached full retirement age. Cruel? Yes.
However, the facility in Fishkill for retirees is full per the last report I heard. Space only gets freed up upon someone's death. I was told they needed more space for older B'lites who were getting too old to work, past the age of being sent out.
For the retirement facilities, they need a doctor and nurses. You might recall the letter that went out several years ago for nurses. They had to be willing to stay indefinitely. When they consolidate facilities, the number of caregivers decreases proportionately, so I suspect consolidation is a high priority to cut expenses.
I recently learned that they are being challenged at the Fishkill facility for some kind of registration issue. They are in need of a larger facility that meets city/county/state requirements. That is all I know.
Atlantis - do you recall the leter to all BOE's asking for nurses? It may have been 4 years ago?
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Elder abuser in Sunshine Coast down under (?)
by carla innot sure if this has been posted or not, apologies if it has.
i did a quick search and did not see it.
https://archive.md/5zcdi -a sunshine coast jehovah’s witness figure accused of horrific sex crimes has been remanded in jail for fresh offences which allegedly occurred the same day he attended court.. and https://archive.md/r2o6x -a sunshine coast jehovah’s witness figure who allegedly used his position in the church to sexually assault young men has been arrested by police.
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In what universe could JWs ever consider a man like that to be no threat to the general population?
Yet they withhold information that could shed light on prosecutorial efforts!
WTC is reprehensible and needs to be held accountable by AG’s who prosecute these types of crimes.