Hoser - I also would NEVER rely on elders for that kind of practical advice. Most are 100% clueless 90% of the time.
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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FRANCE IS AFTER THE WATCHTOWER WITH NEW ANTI-CULT PASSED IN THE ASSEMBLY
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/uvdmjpmgxk8?si=qdvgimktegx4fepm.
the watchtower's nightmares have just began in france.
on april the 9th the french senate passed a new "anti-cult" law that will basically strengthen the hands of miviludes, the french agency, the official anti-cult agency that is cracking down on dangerous cults.
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Some years ago, France was forced to restore what it took from Watchtower and I assume that they did. WTC did not crow about the win - they probably knew that France would be back later - now they are.
JWs never see these losses as indication of a systemic problem within their religion, so they don’t reform, they only become compliant- begrudgingly.
The good ole days of winning cases seems to be ancient history.
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JW's in the Hot Seat in Czech Republic
by Sea Breeze inlooks like things are heating up in the czech republic over the horrifying practice of shunning children that ask the "wrong" questions.
kids now days have access to all of the watchtower's lies, manipulations, unnecessary deaths, flip flops, rejection of jesus as mediator etc, etc.
i predict this issue of shunning children will continue to threaten free government money that the wt receives.
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DOC - and here I am exposing them now:
I am shunned by family and former (false) friends. Even DF'd people don't want to speak to me. Even their pets refuse to let me scratch behind their ears.
There - I have disputed their softer approach to shunning.
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US SOLE DISSENTING "VETO" VOTE ON UN COUNCIL TO PREVENT PALESTINIAN UN MEMBERSHIP!!!
by Golden4Altar inus sole dissenting "veto" vote on un council to prevent palestinian un membership!!!.
the obvious wickedness of usa .
on world wide display!.
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Perhaps I was under the misimpression that the UN Charter accepts only member nations who are actually sovereign nations. During the Clinton administration, Yasser Arafat rejected statehood for Palaestine, so they remained an occupied territiory of Israel. There are probably exceptions... Can anyone tell me the details of how they almost were voted in as a member nation when they are not a nation?
Korea stated adding that its vote today “does not constitute bilateral recognition of Palestine as a State”.
Maybe my old neighborhood should apply to become a member nation. Most member nations don't pay their fair share of dues so we would not that to concern us. Someone else could pay our dues - or not. There must be some benefits - right? Free coffee?
I recall that WTC really chafed that the Vatican was a sovereign nation. All they could become was an NGO. Life is so unfair!!!!
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Westmoreland County man charged in latest Jehovah's Witness sex abuse case
by Tahoe inlink to article .
a westmoreland man was recently charged with sexually assaulting and molesting a young girl by a statewide grand jury that has been investigating sex abuse among elders in jehovah’s witness congregations across pennsylvania for years.. ronald w. mangone, 69, who was a member of the jehovah’s witness congregation in new kensington, allegedly abused the girl beginning at the age of 6 from 1991 to 1994, according to a police complaint filed april 2.. a second girl also was allegedly sexually abused by the suspect in the late 1980s, but law enforcement agents say they were unable to charge him because the statute of limitations had expired.. mr. mangone now faces three felony charges and five misdemeanor charges for sexually assaulting and endangering a minor.
he is the latest suspect in a wide-ranging investigation that has so far led to the arrests of at least 14 others from jehovah’s witness congregations on similar charges since 2022.. “what's going on in pennsylvania has much much broader implications,” said mark o’donnell, a longtime advocate for sexual assault victims in the congregations and a witness who has appeared before the grand jury.. the sweeping investigation in pennsylvania, launched by the attorney general’s office in 2019, is the first to target jehovah’s witness groups in what has been described by some law enforcement agents as a longstanding problem within the religious organization... “it’s groundbreaking,” mr. o’donnell said.
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I also expect to hear one GB eventually but so far it has been dragging. Other states need to get on board and start prosecuting JWs for CSA. If they think it could anger people, they should know that most people will cheer them on.
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Teacher called me to the front of the class and called me a communist. It was a little traumatic but I didn’t let it get under my skin. Compartmentalization was my coping mechanism for dealing with all the name calling and hatred by school officials.
now all those folks are dead from old age and I am still alive, enjoying life. I never treat children the way adults treated me.
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Prediction: no more changes for a long while
by slimboyfat ini’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
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Slim - yes - I recall some asking what they needed money for when everything was going online. They were reducing costs and asking for more. I think this woke some up, but it convinced many that they could stop contibuting.
Later I learned how many CSA suits they were settling out of court. The puzzle was solved.
About the same time, I learned that Warwick ran WAAAAAAAAAAAAY over budget and they opted to not finish one of the last constructed buildings. I knew they had money troubles, then an unimpeachable source confided that they were spending a lot more than they could control. Not long after, another source I trust with my life confirmed that they were deep in the hole. Selling KH's was just the tip of the iceberg. After a KH was sold, most in the cong stopped contributing - a natural response.
I am sure that a lot of true believers at the Bible House also knew this but as a whole, they were still keeping the secret. That amazed me how indoctrinated they had become since I left - more than ever.
When close friends started getting sent out like bad chicken, I was convinced that they were one big lawsuit away from a cash gap.
Especially Treasury B'lites - they were not the brightest Bethel had to offer, but by god they were loyal.
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For all JW's: Stop calling others "apostates."
by BoogerMan inif you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.
cj chap.
3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.
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Now, if they start calling me a supporter, I will be worried. I might even get an attorney.
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Weekend
by surprised2bhere incan anyone tell me what the livestream/recorded talk is that is happening in uk this weekend?
went to memorial to please family.
now been invited to this!
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In the US, occasionally a "special" meeting for elders in a region would be called. Attendance was mandatory!!!!
After attending many of these, I realized that WTC was very insecure and needed reassurance that elders would still JUMP like frogs when commanded.
I began to notice that many elders didn't show. Ahhhhhh..... they figured out that there was no emergency. It a part (a minor part albeit) of my waking up.
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Prediction: no more changes for a long while
by slimboyfat ini’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
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Nowwhat - you nailed it.
Since then, cong pooled giving has decreased too so WTC is almost panicked trying to cover expenses. NOTHING goes back to the congs - NOTHING.
if you doubt this, ask someone to give you an example of WTC sending a cong a check. Let me know what you find…