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  elders visit need advice from ex elders, any

  by jurs in

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  hi eveyone,.

  i just got back from vacation.

  i missed reading everyones postings.. i just received a call from an elder in my congregation.

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  jurs,

  I have seen a lot of deceit over the years within several congregations. The thing I noticed the most is that most elders will lie and sacrifice each other if need be to hold their position within their congregation. The rank and file mean very little compared to gaining prestige among the higher ups.

  There is a lack of humility within the ranks of the WTBTS from the top down. Humility is one thing that is needed in order for a person to admit they are wrong. Has the WTBTS really admitted their mistakes or have they hid them the best they could or even blamed the mistakes on others?

  What I am saying is that 98% of the time you will be dealing with organization minded men and not humble individuals that want to do what is right.
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  elders visit need advice from ex elders, any

  by jurs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi eveyone,.

  i just got back from vacation.

  i missed reading everyones postings.. i just received a call from an elder in my congregation.

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  Scorpion

  Another thought on this, do get the recording. Have two recorders set up in different areas in the room. Make sure they are hidden. The elders will not usually talk to you if they know the conversation is recorded. When the conversation is over and they walk out your door, mention to them that you have recorded what transpired and close the door. This will leave you with a mental edge over them and at least keep them halfway honest.
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  elders visit need advice from ex elders, any

  by jurs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi eveyone,.

  i just got back from vacation.

  i missed reading everyones postings.. i just received a call from an elder in my congregation.

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  jurs,

  By reading your last two posts, it appears that the reason the elders may allow you at this point to have your witnesses in your behalf, is to find out how many others need to be shunned as well as you. It is a setup! I have seen it and experienced it. THINK this through. Don't allow them to have the edge.
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  The Prince Concert...(Gag)

  by NikL in

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  hey all!!

  i got to see prince, last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  he was totally and .

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  Sue,

  You said, How else can he do (his) ministry? When has the society turned the phrase the ministry of Christ to the ministry of Prince?

  I wonder how he marks his time slip?

  Before you know it, he will be having the WT and AFAKE magazines handed out at his concerts. Just think of the placements. He will set a society record.
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  The Prince Concert...(Gag)

  by NikL in

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  hey all!!

  i got to see prince, last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  he was totally and .

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  Scorpion

  BugEyesWife,

  To answer your 1st question, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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  What drives exJWs to atheism?

  by ros in

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  a significant number of former jehovah's witnesses come out of the watchtower still believing the bible and considering themselves christians.

  most coming out are in a serious state of bewilderment, and they look intently and sincerely for something to fill the huge void of lost religion, lost family and friends, and lost fellowship.

  they seek some viable spiritual association with others of like mind while at the same time having become very wary of any organized religion.. what is it that eventually draws so many of us (not me) to agnosticism or atheism?

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  So Farkel, you say it is not what man does, but what the CREATOR of man does/did.

  Are you saying that you believe God created man?

  I also wonder why you believe reptiles to be stupid. Supposedly, it was a reptile who started this mess with decieving us so called intellegent beings.

  I wonder who would fair better in the middle of the wilderness, you or the stupid reptile.
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  What drives exJWs to atheism?

  by ros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a significant number of former jehovah's witnesses come out of the watchtower still believing the bible and considering themselves christians.

  most coming out are in a serious state of bewilderment, and they look intently and sincerely for something to fill the huge void of lost religion, lost family and friends, and lost fellowship.

  they seek some viable spiritual association with others of like mind while at the same time having become very wary of any organized religion.. what is it that eventually draws so many of us (not me) to agnosticism or atheism?

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  ros,

  Thanks for taking the time, something most of us have very little of now a days.
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  What drives exJWs to atheism?

  by ros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a significant number of former jehovah's witnesses come out of the watchtower still believing the bible and considering themselves christians.

  most coming out are in a serious state of bewilderment, and they look intently and sincerely for something to fill the huge void of lost religion, lost family and friends, and lost fellowship.

  they seek some viable spiritual association with others of like mind while at the same time having become very wary of any organized religion.. what is it that eventually draws so many of us (not me) to agnosticism or atheism?

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  Sunchild,

  ROTFLMBO

  You have a unique way with words.

  JanH being God, mountain out of mole hills, LMBO
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  elders visit need advice from ex elders, any

  by jurs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi eveyone,.

  i just got back from vacation.

  i missed reading everyones postings.. i just received a call from an elder in my congregation.

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  Scorpion

  1.Meet at your home
  2.Hide a tape recorder so as to tape the proceedings
  3.Have a witness present
  4.Hide the witness so the elders do not know there is someone else listening to the preceedings

  The reason for the witness and the recording is so you will have proof of what actually went on during the proceedings. The elders and others in the congregation are not beyond starting rumours about you and your departure from the borg.

  According to the letter sent me from the Societies attorneys when I was ousted from my congregation in 1989, you can have a witness or witnesses in your behalf. The elders denied my witnesses as well as my attorney being present when they were aware of what the Societies letter stated.

  Good Luck!

  Is that phrase a disfellowshipping offense?
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  DC

  by Wolfy in

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  man...is my butt sore!...

  (my head too)...went to the dc today.thought i would give ya a run down with a few observations.

  usual crap about daily text and how important it is...yawn..not awake yet.

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  Wolfy,

  Next time take a thermos full of booze, it might help! Don't give the kids any.