Posts by moreconfusedthanever

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How many "leave the truth" because of the behaviour of harsh elders?

by stuckinarut2 in

just wondering how many are assisted to wake up after experiencing harsh treatment from "the loving shepherds of the congregation"?.

perhaps some were starting to wake up, and such behaviour or treatment gave them the push to leave?.

as jesus supposedly said "come to me all who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.

moreconfusedthanever

My husband didn't get reappointed after we were married because my field service record was not up to standard. 2 years later one of the elders who made that decision asked me what my name was before a meeting. Hmm.

I stopped attending meetings when I fell into depression. No one cared for a long time. Eventually a couple of elders came to see why I wasn't coming. Assuming I was upset with someone. When I told them I was suffering depression one of them told me he didn't think I was depressed because I was still able to go to work and depressed people can't leave the house.

I have not returned.

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Do you know anything about Live Kingdom Hall?

by Hecce in

i learned recently about this link that allows for a person to listen or watch the meetings at the kh that have contracted the service.

you have the option to watch the meeting live or just listen.

there will be a recording of the audio available until the next meeting.. i don't think that this is an official wt arrangement, it might be a private enterprise like the preaching materials .

moreconfusedthanever

That is interesting since when you stop attending meetings you get lectured on not forsaking the gathering together to incite to love and fine works blah blah blah.

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Does the watchtower view anyone that is Df as Gods,enemy

by poopie in

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friends

df friend says yes..

moreconfusedthanever

Well as one of my family happily said to me one day "they are either with us or they are against us". That is their stand.

The shunning of a disfellowshipped person is supposed to make them see the error of their ways and make them return to Jehovah. Cutting them off and making them miss family and friends. In this day and age if your family and friends cut you off, there are many other places you can find friends and so it is my opinion that the function of disfellowshipping does not work. It has the opposite effect and pushes the shunned one further away and into relationships and friendships with others.

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Stabed

by Akid48 in

my family has been nice acting after a family member eavesdropped on me and learn that i don't like jws any more.but how mad and the feeling of getting backstabed when i had my hole family got mad at me at one time.i love my family and understand why they acted that way but that feeling of getting backstabed never goes away i have tryed to put the feeling in back of my mind but he always comes back when i talk to a family..

moreconfusedthanever

You see it as back stabbing but remember that JWs actually believe that your life and theirs depends on obedience to JW.Org. Try to see it as true concern for your welfare and it will be easier to move on from.

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What could Jw church do to enhance their shunning regime?

by Chook in

if they controlled a nation they would stone their kids to death , which seems harsh but its nothing compared to the solitary confinement they emotionally and physically bestow on their own children.

i think they have ticked every box as to the rejection of their children except killing them, they leave that for god ..

moreconfusedthanever

The thing about that is, people are allowing themselves to be controlled. They read the scripture that supports shunning in Corinthians and there are only 6 things mentioned in there but there are over 100 disfellowshipping offences in the JW religion. When someone is announced as no longer a JW, no one gets to find out why? You are not allowed to get the facts from the person.

One of my friends got disfellowshipped for nothing but the "sheeple" will make up stories and gossip because no one gets disfellowshipped for nothing. Jehovah wouldn't allow that.

How many faders are being shunned by their family just for not warming a seat at the kingdom hall?? No disfellowshipping offence committed and no disassociation letter written yet the family "protect their own spirituality" by avoiding these ones.

The mind control is complete but they still profess to have free will.

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New Jehovah Witness Convert

by Eddie Fernandez in

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hello house,i am sorry for bumping in like this, ii am a newly baptized jehovah witness, i have been a christain all my life any but i love this new insight and teaching,so i am looking to find a jehovah witness lady that can help me grow strong in faith,i would rather meet someone here because we would take time to get to know each other before we meet, this is a light about me,i am 37 , single, never married and have no kids,i have a good sense of humor, i am loving, caring and trustworthy.i'm an easy going person and i try to stay clear of any drama.i am presently in living in lexington,kentucky but willing to move soon.i am a reserved man,now i am ready to settle down and i'm looking for a woman i can vibe with on a spiritual and intellectual level, i want love and commitment,i am intelligent and successful but let me not toot my own horns,thanks for taking your time to read this.attached my picture and i did include my mobile number.+1 913-730-5780looking forward to hearing from you .thanks.

moreconfusedthanever

Skydiving, shooting, hunting, video games and action movies?

I call BS.

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"Prayer" and answers to it , positive / negative ,or is it all in the mind ?

by smiddy3 in

speaking from my own experience and that of my family of wife and two now adult sons do not believe that prayers to jehovah /god are answered .. so it must also be true of all other religions and their believers also.. my wife and i were jw`s for 33 years and and i don`t believe anyone prayed harder than my wife and i at various trials we faced during those times in those 33 years.. we may as well have been like the present day jews who pray to a brick wall .

moreconfusedthanever

There was a time I would have said he certainly does. I strongly believed that meeting my husband was an answer to a prayer. Granted it was a prayer I had been asking for 10+ years before it was answered.

There are those that say he will only answer your prayers if it is in line with his will but the same ones will tell you to ask God to help you like healthy food if you want to lose weight so I just don't know anymore.

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Witnesses vying for "who has the biggest trials to cope with"

by stuckinarut2 in

it struck me that witnesses have mastered the art of revelling in "trials and problems" that require "enduring".

of course, the persecution complex, and the paranoia about these "wicked last days" no doubt contributes to this.. if one witness has some health issue, or if another has a family drama, they seem to revel in sharing these stories amongst their witness friends...almost in an attempt to elicit sympathy.. has anyone else noticed this?.

most normal people though outside of the org, simply recognise that life has its ups and downs, and need to be dealt with..

moreconfusedthanever

My mum always said if you have no problems then satan is leaving you alone which means that you must not be doing things Jehovah's way.

They also say that if you pull away from Jehovah, he will take his spirit away from you and you will have trouble.

So which is it? Is it Satan giving me trouble because I am with Jehovah or is it Jehovah giving me trouble because I am not?

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Funniest or strangest thing to happen to you when knocking on a door

by usualusername1 in

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friends

what is the funniest or strangest thing to happen to you or your partner when knocking on doors?.

mine was seeing a greenhouse with mannequins inside.

scary...paul.

moreconfusedthanever

I have a few memorable ones.

Working with my friend - both teenagers at the time - knocked on the door in the middle of the day. Takes a while for the householder to come to the door. A man comes to the door wearing nothing but a towel. My friend begins her presentation and the man lets go of his towel. My friend turns a very bright shade of red and we leave laughing.

Working with my dad one day we knock and out comes a very angry woman "get off my property before I get my gun. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire!" she yells. My dad smiles at her and says "okay, have a nice day."

I also had a "magazine route" when I was young. We were encouraged to offer subscriptions so I offered her one on my next visit. She says to me "oh no love, I was only taking the magazines because I think you are cute."

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Watchtower today

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

shame to see our multi bilion property and media corporation asks for the last coins of an indian child, the coconuts from a sri lanka man and the last olive oil of a greek poor.. message to the poor is: no money, then your other belongings are belonging to jehova (read:jw.org).. at the end of the article i can click on a donate button and get a visa / mastercard sign om my screen.. follow the money: were are the property bilions?.

g..

moreconfusedthanever

I remember them being very proud of the fact that we did not have collection plates passed at the meetings. This separated us from Christendom.

So now the watchtower comes with its own collection plates as a link to donate.

Waton - that scripture in Matthew also does not match what the watchtower said a few weeks ago when discouraging brothers from helping refugees with material things.

Again I am left wondering why the "sheep" can't see these things. Sigh.