Posts by moreconfusedthanever

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Barbara Harrison

by Diogenesister in

has anyone read barbara harrison's book "visions of glory" ( 1978), and if so what did you think?.

apparently she is an exjw and feminist author, who used to write for ms magazine, who has a good reputation among scholars.

i'm surprised i haven't heard of her given that she seems to be fairly respected as an author and political commentator.. anyone have anything they can tell me about her please?.

End times "too late for you now" witnessing?

by CitizenofEarth in

hello there.. i've heard it several times from different people while i was growing up, as well seen some people talk about it here on the forum.

the subject is the jw belief that a time will come before the end where they will change the message that jesus talked about, to one of damnation, where the world will be told something along the lines of "it is too late now".

do any of you have references to jw litterature where they write this?

moreconfusedthanever

They sure did say that and I remember thinking "crap, I hate witnessing now so I can't see myself doing that".

My mother is sure that the cutting back on publications is a sign that we are nearing the judgement message time. She is a ball of anxiety and nerves now. So sad to see her like that.

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Governments should not under-estimate the potential danger-health that the G.B.pose for the community of Jehovah`s Witnesses

by smiddy3 in

at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.

its not such a big stretch of the imagination to think that jim jones or david koresh used such reasoning to convince their followers to do what they did, to have absolute faith in what they were saying was from god.

moreconfusedthanever

It could also just be another way of "dangling the carrot". Make it sound like they know something the rest of us don't. Anyone who was getting weary and ready to cool off will be perked up and back into "service" because it sounds like the end is near. Just more manipulation and lies.

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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.

by Heathen Dan in

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this is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).

first of all, i've left being a jw in june.

since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.

moreconfusedthanever

Welcome Dan! Don't get lost in the FOG. Trust yourself and your own mind.

Enjoy making your own way and your own life. I'm so glad you have your brother on your side and that he has you.

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disfellowshipped and looking to find someone in the same possition

by whatisgoingonpls in

where can i find a disfellowshipped wife ;)

moreconfusedthanever

A disfellowshiped wife is a worldly person. The entire Earth is your oyster!

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"Go and tell someone who cares...I dont care!"

by stuckinarut2 in

i don't usually like the confrontational approach to those on the carts, however this video is a great example of how jws do not really care about child abuse issues!.

the arrogance of this brother is disturbing..... bear with the video.

it gets really interesting around the 6 min mark, where the brother loses his cool.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5chulnnyqs.

moreconfusedthanever

The problem is that they are told these stories are apostate lies. They do not have the facts in order to have an opinion. Those who do know about it still have the "wait on Jehovah" attitude.

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What do I do ?

by jdash in

hey guys, this is my first time posting on here but lets get started.. so i'm a 17 year old boy who currently attends meetings at a congregation in indianapolis.

i live with my grandparents, on my father's side, because my mother died in 2010. i been attending meetings since i was 10. my mother got into the religion but then got disfellowshiped.

my dad is on and off, he currently just got reinstated.

moreconfusedthanever

Hang in there. Don't make more stress and trouble for yourself than necessary.

Take the time to plan your exit and future path.

If you want to keep your friends in your life do not disassociate. Just slowly fade out.

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It saddens me to know that marriages break up because of religion and the blame, whose fault it is ?

by smiddy3 in

a jehovah`s witness couple who have been married for many years and some with children of various ages and have been serving in their congregation meeting attendance, fs and bible studies with their children for many years .. and then one of them begins to have doubts about what they are being taught and what they actually are supposed to believe now that some changes have been made with nu-lite.. the doubts grow and then the the use of the internet to investigate further some of the claims of the gb/wt religion .. with the wealth of information available on the www it now becomes impossible to continue to be an active member of the jehovah`s witness religion without being an utter hypocrite .

you no longer believe them anymore that they alone are gods chosen people in this day.. however your spouse does not see things the way you do not at all and after many months of arguments bickering threats the ultimatum is something like if you don`t believe what i believe that you have left jehovah we can`t live together anymore ,i want a divorce unless you come to your senses.. who is the one here breaking up the marriage ?.

isn`t it in the majority of cases the jw who ends the marriage ?

moreconfusedthanever

What about love? I can't get my head around the fact that having different views on God can Trump the love of a couple who promised to love and honour one another through good times and bad, in sickness and health.

As the bible says, we each render our own account to God so how can religion of choice end a perfectly happy marriage? Unless it was not so happy and an out was being sought?

I don't know. It is not right in any case.

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Did your children help you wake up?

by Zyron in

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what help me wake up, (still pimo) in addition to lingering doubts throughout most of my life, and i'm in my late 50s, was the questioning from my children when they became teenagers.

i could not honestly defend the origins of the jws, prohibition of birthdays and other celebrations; especially when you realise that the whole belief system is/was based on crazy teachings of a businessman.. the real kicker is when you have a religion that has to produce its own bible to support its beliefs, that's when i knew the whole religion is an expensive and cleverly marketed belief system.

like most religions.. glad to say none of my children want anything to do with jws and two of them don't believe in god.

moreconfusedthanever

Yes my children have had a part in my realisation that the truth is not true.

It also makes me embarrassed that I wasn't as switched on as they are at the same age. It would have saved me from wasting many years and saved me from anxiety and low self esteem.

Thank goodness they are and are free to make their own choices.

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Tell me if I’m wrong - Jeffery Jackson is not a governing body member.

by Truth and Justice in

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yesterday, i had my sister come over to tell my mother and i that she will no longer have anything to do with us, because we need to come back to the meetings, it’s what jehovah wants, and hands her a letter to read and asks for a final hug.

my mother has been dealing with a terrible lost of dad since july, and has been very ill with stress because of it.

i no longer belong to the organization either, and i have been helping my mother out thru this ordeal, it is just as rough on me.

moreconfusedthanever

So happy to cut off family members at the say so of the GB and then not even know who the GB are?

WTF?