Posts by moreconfusedthanever

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Engaged Couples Living Together

by ILewis in

my question is this.

is it wrong for a jehovah's witness to allow an unmarried couple to live together under their roof?

same room, same bed, they are allowing full on cohabitation.

moreconfusedthanever

"no overnight guests, no cursing and no sinning" guaranteed!

Bold claims since in the eyes of God we are all sinners and no one is without sin, even you.

As long as you make sure you are doing the right thing - no overnight guests, no cursing and trying to minimize your sinning - you needn't worry about unclean spirits whatever they are.

Perhaps your landlord is allowing the couple to stay as an act of love to her fellow man and helping them out in a hard situation and following the scripture In Matthew 7:1 and not judging them.

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Raising children - thoughts

by CovertsadJW in

just some thoughts for today - let me know what you think.

i grew up in the jw faith / cult - .

i can’t prove i am a better person because of it , but in some ways i can prove how it has damaged me.

moreconfusedthanever

The one that my mum would say is "a good relationship with God and the promise of everlasting life".

I don't think growing up JW necessarily means a good relationship with Jehovah if he in fact exists.

Growing up JW fosters following rules due to guilt trips and not logical reasoning. Rules set by men you will never meet and to whom you mean nothing. Rules that are no where to be found in the book of instructions supposedly left to us by God. Rules that will see you struggling to survive in the real world and leave you ignorant of the state of the world and how you could contribute to making it better.

Growing up JW makes you arrogant and intolerant and without compassion for fellow man and most of all judgmental about absolutely everyone.

Not at all what Jesus was, in whose steps we are meant to follow, if he did in fact exist.

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3 More BOE's just arrived!

by Atlantis in

3 more boe's arrived.. .

2018 special talk info.

https://we.tl/tyg6jfwrrw.

moreconfusedthanever

An answer sheet!

Gone are the days of biblical discussion where you could answer with what you understood. Now they give the conductor an answer sheet for him to ensure the flock get the answers right according to what the borg want them to think.

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Home schooling website / system for JWs

by sir82 in

jw
friends

so, apparently, there is an organization which provides structure, curriculum, etc.

for home-schooling of jw kids:.

http://www.newsystemschool.org/index.html.

moreconfusedthanever

Tor. It can be isolating but in our case we have much more association with like minded families than we would ever have had at school.

The homeschool community here organise excursions several times a week and if you were to attend them all you wouldn't get any book work done.

For my son being able to pick and choose which ones to take part in gives him a sense of being in control of his life and the excursions are usually educational and designed to meet a curriculum criteria as a bonus.

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Home schooling website / system for JWs

by sir82 in

jw
friends

so, apparently, there is an organization which provides structure, curriculum, etc.

for home-schooling of jw kids:.

http://www.newsystemschool.org/index.html.

moreconfusedthanever

Zeb, you have a PM

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a question after my first JW meeting

by bleak in

i attended my first jw meeting recently.

first, i would like to say what i agree with about the jehovah's witnesses beliefs and practices.. 1. they don't consider israeli's as "god's chosen people" and they don't worship israel as some holy land filled with righteous jews (although there are some there) as most so-called "christians" (christian zionists) erroneously believe they are instead of the "hypocrites" and "vipers" that it is actually filled with.. 2. they don't celebrate "holidays" like easter and christmas which are, in fact, remnants of earlier pagan practices.. 3. they don't put nation before god and christ.

they don't believe in war or going to war because of some crazy government/cia secret agenda.

moreconfusedthanever

1. They consider themselves God's chosen people and only the JWs who attend the Kingdom Hall will survive Armageddon. 99.9% of the world's population are marked for destruction.

2. Easter and Christmas are out due to pagan links but wedding rings and shunning are acceptable even though pagan links exist.

3. Their Governing Body put themselves between you and God and Christ. No mention of a GB or faithful and discreet slave in John 14:6

4. Yes and they edit their Bible's to fit their control on the flock. See Micah 6:8 for example.

They pick and choose which bits are figurative or literal according to their current doctrine and how it best served to control the flock and keep them in the FOG (fear, obligation, guilt)

It is a prerequisite to think and act and look exactly as they say. Appearing before judges has nothing to do with it. Have you watched Judge Judy?

Until recently men were not allowed to have beards even though the good Lord gave them facial hair. Now they have an issue with tight pants. Ask them where these things are in their bible?

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Home schooling website / system for JWs

by sir82 in

jw
friends

so, apparently, there is an organization which provides structure, curriculum, etc.

for home-schooling of jw kids:.

http://www.newsystemschool.org/index.html.

moreconfusedthanever

I agree that if you home school to cut your children off from the real world and "inculcate" them with your cult then the outcomes for the children will be inadequate.

I certainly would not be using the Bible as part of the curriculum.

Thankfully our system would not allow that. Having said that you can buy "Christian" versions of the curriculum and I know of ones who class witnessing as social skills training.

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Home schooling website / system for JWs

by sir82 in

jw
friends

so, apparently, there is an organization which provides structure, curriculum, etc.

for home-schooling of jw kids:.

http://www.newsystemschool.org/index.html.

moreconfusedthanever

I don't know how homeschool works where you all are but as a homeschool mum myself I find some of the comments a bit harsh.

Homeschooling was not our first choice for our son but as a child with special needs we were left with no other option. School was his place of torture and high anxiety resulted.

Here the application process is lengthy. You must show how you will teach each aspect of the curriculum and list your resources. Yearly testing of the children and reviews are had. Every year you need to show how you will meet the curriculum and children must be present for reviews.

It's not a requirement but I completed a certificate 3 in education support and spent a year working in a school as a support officer before I was confident I could do it at home. Some of the home school mum's I have met are qualified teachers who could see their children would fall through the cracks and not get the education they deserve in a classroom of 30 with 1 over worked and stressed out teacher.

Not everyone homeschools to keep their children from socializing with wordly children and to control everything.

We have met a wonderful bunch of families in the same boat as us via a few Facebook pages and we all want our children to succeed in life and have found a great community to be part of.

We need to be careful not to make generalisations.

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

moreconfusedthanever

Oh my gosh! I was just saying to my husband that I am annoyed at how much of my day is spent thinking about the religion and my life in it. I think about more now than I ever did while I was still in the fog.

It annoys me so much. I wish it would just go away.

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My Boyfriend's Family Wants to Meet Mine (My Parent's are JWs) Help!

by LaurenM in

so i have been "faded" for approximately 2.5 years.

my parents know i haven't attended a meeting in quite some time, but don't know that i have been dating a guy for about eight months.

we really love each other and his family is super sweet.

moreconfusedthanever

Just recently I was told about an extended family member, faded for years, dad an elder. Dad found out about worldly boyfriend so calls the elders and sets up a meeting for them and his daughter. Daughter DFd. Dad keeps his "humble service" position of elder daughter now shunned.

Every which way you look at it, shunning is the result.

If you have met your man's parents I would recommend talking to them and making them understand your situation.