Posts by moreconfusedthanever

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Watchtower Annulled My Baptism

by RICHT in

contrary to popular belief you can have your baptism annulled as i did by my local elders after my judicial hearing.. the watchtower of 1964 page 126 first paragraph clearly states that anyone that was committing a gross sin before, during and after their baptism is void.

in order to get right with the lord you would need to be re-baptised.

err no thanks, i'm not a believer!!!!.

moreconfusedthanever

Happened to a woman in my congregation. Gets baptised one weekend and a couple of months later annulment is announced.

I also know of a case where the elders stepped in and stopped a baptism going ahead the night before it was going to happen.

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Set the record straight!

by Colinconfused in

i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.

moreconfusedthanever

Colinconfused - from your thought, study, research and logical examination can you please point me in the direction of proof that the GB is the faithful and discreet slave?

Russell said he was the slave and then he died. At what point did Jehovah choose the collective as the slave?

I have asked more than one JW and no one has the answer.

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"Only Witnesses demonstrate Christian Love"

by Jules Saturn in

so a couple of nights ago i was speaking with a relative and we began talking about the organization.

i had to asked her "why do you believe that this religion is the correct one?

" they stood quiet for a second but then said that they view and feel genuine christian love, a type of love that is spoken about in the bible.

moreconfusedthanever

The true Christian love is evident as they are the only religion as a whole whose members will not go to war. That to them is all the proof they need that they have the truth. Never mind the "minor" detail that unless you attend the meetings you don't exist.

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Has anyone else recently been contacted by a once close JW friend or relative? Could this be a new JW tactic?

by Latte in

hmmmm...yesterday my long life friend called my landline after many years of silence.

now the shock has subsided, i am wondering if i can forgive and forget the fact she chose not to keep in touch throughout a time in my life which was very stressful.

sadly, i gathered that she is still involved with jehovah’s witness faith.

moreconfusedthanever

Yes! So strange. Just out of the blue we get a text message from someone who hasn't cared if we are alive or not for at least a few years. The text message just says - how is the family? We miss you at the meetings.

The time for caring has passed.

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The average Witness will continue to follow Watchtower leadership whether right or wrong.

by UnshackleTheChains in

i hate to say this, but given my own experience as a jw for almost 3 decades, i am beginning to believe the average jw will continue to look to and be guided by the gb regardless of whether they are right or wrong.. despite all the scandals and negative media attention the watchtower organisation is receiving, life seems to go on as normal in jw land.

it's truly bizarre!!.

clearly, the gbs tactic of mostly hiding away from the media is clearly working for them.

moreconfusedthanever

Beth Sarim

I said that exact thing to one of my relatives just the other day. I said "the truth today does not resemble the truth you joined all those years ago. It is a totally different religion". The response was "yes it is so wonderful how much easier they have made things for us."

They do not care that it has changed and they continue to just follow blindly.

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Chapter 13 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

by new boy in

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chapter 13. they get my heart, soul and my body.

saturday morning i was up at 6:30. it was fun trying to share small bathroom with seven other guys, all trying to get ready in 20 minutes.

i threw some cloths on and headed to first “morning worship.” gilbert said i could sit on his table since there was an extra space there.

moreconfusedthanever

We visited our local branch and had lunch with them. I felt like I was stealing when offered an apple. It was so weird. I could never ever live and work in there.

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Do you feel comfortable being an apostate?

by Chook in

i always found it uncomfortable to informal witness to people but trying to convince a jw to jump ship brings much more pleasure..

moreconfusedthanever

I am not comfortable with the term apostate because I am not opposed to God. I question everything I have believed and been taught to believe and knowing the things I know now make me feel like the term better suits the organization.

I am fading and am not able to openly share my thoughts and feelings while being badgered by relatives to return to the meetings and being counseled on letting the actions of others stumble me.

I wish I could just blurt out what I really think but I do not want to hurt my family.

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Kids ... and baptism.

by Tallon in

i have noticed, from reading posts on this and other related websites, what to me is an alarming practice taking place within the jw's.

and that is the baptism of kids.. on a recent discussion posted by pe ( video of the girl now forced to shun her sister) this child was baptised at 9 years old.

all of us who were baptised at a much older age know of the many questions one needs to give serious consideration and understanding of to become eligible for baptism, not to mention the two baptism questions asked before being dunked.. surely the organisation must know that children of such a young age are not mature enough to fully grasp the seriousness, demands and consequences of making such a decision.. another point; if jesus is the example to follow, then why did he only get baptised at age 30, and he was perfect!.

moreconfusedthanever

Fulano - you will find that young elders are not unusual now. They are encouraging it and wanting the older one to train them up.

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Kids ... and baptism.

by Tallon in

i have noticed, from reading posts on this and other related websites, what to me is an alarming practice taking place within the jw's.

and that is the baptism of kids.. on a recent discussion posted by pe ( video of the girl now forced to shun her sister) this child was baptised at 9 years old.

all of us who were baptised at a much older age know of the many questions one needs to give serious consideration and understanding of to become eligible for baptism, not to mention the two baptism questions asked before being dunked.. surely the organisation must know that children of such a young age are not mature enough to fully grasp the seriousness, demands and consequences of making such a decision.. another point; if jesus is the example to follow, then why did he only get baptised at age 30, and he was perfect!.

moreconfusedthanever

I was 13. It was the 80s. Everyone I knew was getting baptised in their teens back then.

At the ARC Terry O'Brien was asked if JW baptise children and he said no. He said they only baptise those close to adulthood. Just a few weeks ago a relative was all smiles and "oh how wonderful" telling me about a young boy of 9 getting baptised with his mother.

I regret it so much that I made that choice without ever asking the important questions which never occurred to me to ask until now in my 40s.

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Returning to the truth.

by Justmeok2 in

hi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.

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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..

moreconfusedthanever

Research, research and research. Don't let a bit of love bombing at the KH cloud your mind.