Posts by moreconfusedthanever

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Born atheist, my best friend is a JW.

by Maxsara in

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as stated in the title, i have been raised an atheist, and while i have a relatively open mind, i do not currently believe in a god.

my best friend, who i met six years ago, is a jehovah's witness.

i believe the reason he has been allowed to be friends with me is because he didn't have many at the time we met, and his parents wanted him to be more social, but we've kept in contact ever since.. over the last year or so, i've done some research into the organisation he is part of, and i have been lead to believe that it is generally quite hypocritical and has many cultish (using hassan's definition) tendencies.

moreconfusedthanever

Perhaps ask him what evidence there is that he has the one true religion. The witnesses believe that they were chosen by Jesus in 1919 but what happened in 1919 to support this? What proof is there? How do they know that the 8 bozos in New York speak for God - what proof is there?

Fact is that they do not believe what they were teaching back in 1919 when they were chosen so either it wasn't truth then or it isn't truth now.

I asked my own family this question as they want me to return to the meetings. I said if they could prove to me that the Governing Body is who they say they are then I would return. Their response was "they do not owe you proof". There simply is no answer to this question because it is not the truth.

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Do you think its stupid that JWs can't date regular people?

by nowawake14 in

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that is absolutely the number one rule that i resent.. i feel sorry for some of those poor dependent minded jws who can't find anyone to marry.

all because they were only allowed to be with witnesses.

what a bunch of boloney!

moreconfusedthanever

My mother was praying that I find a spiritual man to marry so I would have a good spiritual head.

I ended up marrying a ministerial servant.

We are both out now. Living happily ever after.

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Flip flop reposting for the newer members

by Splash in

i posted this a while ago and i was asked for it again recently, which made me think of putting it back here for any newer members.. please find a link that is active for one month which lists the jw teachings which have been changed back and forth.. flip flop pdf.

it was this alone which made me realise the wt are clueless, imperfect guessers at doctrine, so why do they deserve to be followed.

(spoiler: they don't deserve to be.

moreconfusedthanever

Thank you for sharing.

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Ending Bible Study

by Maria Nieves in

i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

moreconfusedthanever

I find it interesting that she is still coming along to study with you after 2 years. It wasn't that long ago that if you hadn't progressed to baptism after 6 months you were cut loose.

My father studied for at least a couple of years but his first study conductor cut him loose as a waste of time and another person took over.

Make no mistake, they are not your friends. They will ACT like your friends until they have completed their recruitment of you and then you will be subject to their totally conditional and judgemental fake friendship.

Listen to your gut and get out now.

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Should I do this?

by CivilServant79 in

hi there this is my first post as i’m not sure what to do.

my family (both sides) are well known in our circuit and very dedicated to the truth.

but we’re relatively normal people and i love them all so much.

moreconfusedthanever

If I were you I would keep my actual thoughts and feelings to myself and only say what any JW will be able to handle. Even if they are family, their allegiance is to their religion and it's rules. The only way to fade successfully is to say nothing.

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2018 Branch Organization Manual!

by Atlantis in

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just in case anybody needed this.. 2018 branch organization manual.

https://we.tl/t-vya6lknwtn.

atlantis!.

moreconfusedthanever

Thank you

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2018 Branch Manual Leaked

by Not_Culty in

the branch manual (august 2018) can be downloaded here: https://faithleaks.org/wiki/documents/f/f6/2018-08-branch_organization.pdf.

https://truthandtransparency.org/news/2019/2/11/leaked-branch-and-elders-manuals-pull-back-the-curtain-of-inner-workings-of-jehovahs-witnesses-top-leaders.

moreconfusedthanever

Thank you

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2019 Elders Manual and a Whole Lot More!

by Atlantis in

single zipped folderhttps://we.tl/t-uiqj87wimd.

2019-02-02-musical preludeshttps://we.tl/t-zyfpnodizd.

s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdfhttps://we.tl/t-i9qamx3s0q.

moreconfusedthanever

Thank you!!

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How do you deal with the emotions of waking up? ---my ramble -----

by Fognomore in

good morning, .

i am just wondering how you have constructively worked through the emotions of waking up?

i am trying hard to be positive, and i know life is a gift.

moreconfusedthanever

We were just talking about this very thing this morning. About how we cannot say and be exactly how we want because of our entire families being lost in the FOG. I frustrates me how they still want to control us and our children and I wonder how they would have felt if their own families did the same to them when they decided to join this crazy cult. We have decided to ask them that very question next time they start with the "go back to meetings" lecture.

When I first came to realise that my life had revolved around one big lie I was angry, frustrated and a bit lost - my user name says it all.

I would come onto the forum every day sometimes more than once. Now I only log on every couple of days. The BORG and their lies no longer consume my every waking moment.

I am so glad the actual truth became clear to me before I had my children believing it and knowing that they will be able to live their lives without the fear, obligation and guilt gives me great comfort.

I have also been able to make friends outside the religion who have been great support to me and a place where I can openly talk about the mind control religion I was brought up in.

It is very hard to cope with the constant battle of the mind when you have spent the day with a fanatical PIMI family member and then I remind myself that they too are victims.

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Baptised 52 years today!

by Phoebe in

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january 29th - my baptism date.

can you remember how you felt at your baptism?.

i got baptised because my dad kept frightening me.

moreconfusedthanever

I was 13. Got dunked with my brother. The only excitement of the day was the new bathing suit for the occasion, the new dress and my parents gave me a pet Budgie as a gift on the day.

The brothers filmed the baptism because we were taken by bus off site so they replayed the baptism on screens during the lunch break.