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  Is the Bible from Men, NOT God?

  by the-Question in

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  for those claiming that- how much thought or research have you done?.

  objective or non-objective?.

  ever read the other books claiming to be from god?

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  anointed1

  I agree with crazyguy--most of it are borrowed:

  COMPARISON OF FLOOD MYTH
  	GENESIS	GILGAMESH
  Extent of flood	Global	Global
  Cause	Man's wickedness	Man's sins
  Intended for whom?	All mankind	One city & all mankind
  Sender	Yahweh	Assembly of "gods"
  Name of hero	Noah	Utnapishtim
  Hero's character	Righteous	Righteous
  Means of announcement	Direct from God	In a dream
  Ordered to build boat?	Yes	Yes
  Did hero complain?	Yes	Yes
  Height of boat	Several stories (3)	Several stories (6)
  Compartments inside?	Many	Many
  Doors	One	One
  Windows	At least one	At least one
  Outside coating	Pitch	Pitch
  Shape of boat	Rectangular	Square
  Human passengers	Family members only	Family & few others
  Other passengers	All species of animals	All species of animals
  Means of flood	Ground water & heavy rain	Heavy rain
  Duration of flood	Long (40 days & nights plus)	Short (6 days & nights)
  Test to find land	Release of birds	Release of birds
  Types of birds	Raven & three doves	Dove, swallow, raven
  Ark landing spot	Mountain -- Mt. Ararat	Mountain -- Mt. Nisir
  Sacrificed after flood?	Yes, by Noah	Yes, by Utnapishtim
  Blessed after flood?	Yes	Yes
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  Is the Bible from Men, NOT God?

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those claiming that- how much thought or research have you done?.

  objective or non-objective?.

  ever read the other books claiming to be from god?

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  anointed1

  Using a book or a religion cannot be God's way of communication. As Simon once put: trying to find out which scripture or religion is the right one is like trying to find out which neighborhood is the right neighborhood (you have to live as a neighbor to everyone on earth which would take millions of years.
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  Is the Bible from Men, NOT God?

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those claiming that- how much thought or research have you done?.

  objective or non-objective?.

  ever read the other books claiming to be from god?

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  anointed1

  I believed Bible is from God till I came across Jeremiah 7:31 where it says 'killing a son to atone the sins of others' have never come up in God's mind. Yet Jesus being killed by the sinners is used as the basis for the absolving of sins which forms bulk of the NT. This was a shock to me--the most important teaching itself is an apostate idea!
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  Why is this blind allegiance to the anointed ones?

  by anointed1 in

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  even when they know that certain things are not right with the organization the flocks are blindly following their leaders viewing them as the future “kings and priests” (originally a sumerian concept).. greed for a “land of milk and honey” (either in this life or the next) is at the root of their allegiance.

  interestingly, greed is something the flocks are warned against: ‘be on your guard against all kinds of greed which is idolatry.’ (luke 12:15; colossians 3:5).

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  anointed1

  Yes, scratchme1010 you got it--it is basically allegiance to themselves, love of themselves.
  
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  Why is this blind allegiance to the anointed ones?

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
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  even when they know that certain things are not right with the organization the flocks are blindly following their leaders viewing them as the future “kings and priests” (originally a sumerian concept).. greed for a “land of milk and honey” (either in this life or the next) is at the root of their allegiance.

  interestingly, greed is something the flocks are warned against: ‘be on your guard against all kinds of greed which is idolatry.’ (luke 12:15; colossians 3:5).

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  anointed1

  When all my family members joined JWs one by one, I had problems such as these (which prevented me from going along with them):

  1) How can murder of an innocent person by the sinners atone the sins of the sinners (which argues against the very inspiration of scriptures)

  2) When we are told to do this and that because God wants, should we not reason: To claim that an omnipotent God “wants” something is not only illogical, it’s extremely insulting to such a God: it’s tantamount to saying that the god isn’t omnipotent!

  3) When we are urged to pray to an all-knowing (omniscient) God, should we not ask: Why should we pray to an omniscient being who would already know of it?
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  Why is this blind allegiance to the anointed ones?

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even when they know that certain things are not right with the organization the flocks are blindly following their leaders viewing them as the future “kings and priests” (originally a sumerian concept).. greed for a “land of milk and honey” (either in this life or the next) is at the root of their allegiance.

  interestingly, greed is something the flocks are warned against: ‘be on your guard against all kinds of greed which is idolatry.’ (luke 12:15; colossians 3:5).

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  anointed1

  Even when they know that certain things are not right with the organization the flocks are blindly following their leaders viewing them as the future “kings and priests” (originally a Sumerian concept).

  Greed for a “land of milk and honey” (either in this life or the next) is at the root of their allegiance. Interestingly, greed is something the flocks are warned against: ‘Be on your guard against all kinds of greed which is idolatry.’ (Luke 12:15; Colossians 3:5)
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  A problem for believers

  by Bugbear in

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  a problem for believers!.

  a majority of the world’s population acknowledge that they believe in a superior god or in their creator.

  they also claim that they have got this special understanding and knowledge of his will and his law.

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  anointed1

  What would have happened if there were no religions? Would we have found ourselves believers in God? Situation would definitely be different. It’s like what happened in Mosco zoo which did a unique experiment . They made one part of the zoo for the fresh species (those who are removed from their parents immediately after the birth). Not seeing what their seniors are doing, even carnivorous animals became vegetarians and lived in peace with other animals.

  Humans have no time to experiment such things as they are deeply embroiled in their greed thus suffer from limited vision, hence cannot have overall view on anything. They will be mechanical on the question of what is right and wrong. But the very nature of what is right and wrong has to do with overall view. Donating a house to a homeless person is right when done by an individual. But same act when done by a King is wrong because king is bound to help all the homeless persons; helping only one person would be partiality. That means viewing as a whole is the key. When viewed as a whole, even materialists do a great service because it is our experience that without them the religionists would become extreme human rights violators. It means even atheists (though working independent of God) work for the good of the humanity.

  Viewing as a whole comes with experience. In such experience even the question “Does God exist?” is irrelevant. That question has not been lived, experienced. It is just a bunch of: “Yes, because …….or No, because…….” then we add stuff to support our thinking……no experience. If there is experience, that question wouldn’t be asked.
  
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  The rich will not inherit the Kingdom of God—Did Jesus really say this?

  by anointed1 in

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  it is our experience that love of money brings action towards accumulating abundance of wealth which ultimately convinces the owner that “i was wasting my time” which in turn motivates him to turn into philanthropy (like bill gates and co did).

  this is a perfect design (designed to work independently of god) like a journey of which the first half is wasteful and the second half is fruitful, and it is to be viewed as a whole.

  hence it is unlikely that jesus would say: “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of god.” (mathew 19:24) verse is obviously attributed to jesus by later writers.. this means question of morality is not complicated if viewed as a whole process.

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  anointed1

  Dear tor1500 I was proving here that Jesus did not make that statement.
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  The rich will not inherit the Kingdom of God—Did Jesus really say this?

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is our experience that love of money brings action towards accumulating abundance of wealth which ultimately convinces the owner that “i was wasting my time” which in turn motivates him to turn into philanthropy (like bill gates and co did).

  this is a perfect design (designed to work independently of god) like a journey of which the first half is wasteful and the second half is fruitful, and it is to be viewed as a whole.

  hence it is unlikely that jesus would say: “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of god.” (mathew 19:24) verse is obviously attributed to jesus by later writers.. this means question of morality is not complicated if viewed as a whole process.

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  anointed1

  Dear oppostate, I had never been a JW (though I have active family members and lots of friends in that org). I chose the name anointed1 just for a fun.
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  Death and Judgement Day

  by Tirisilex in

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  i'm having a hard time with this.

  what does the bible say what happens when you die?

  when jesus was on the cross he said to the man that when he dies he will be with jesus in heaven.

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  anointed1

  Even Jesus did not have answers to simple questions such as ‘why some are born blind?’ The answer he gave was more confusing and God-dishonoring: “this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.” John 9:3

  Hence we cannot have answers to such questions as yours.