Posts by bleak

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Mind control

by Jrjw in

ive just watched on youtube the b.i.t.e model of cult mind control by steve hassan.

all 23 steps apply to the wts.

its awful knowing i was tricked and how subtly it was done without me even knowing.

That BITE is soft mind control. If you want to learn about the hard stuff which involves subjecting victims to torture/trauma of various methods, look at the CIA's programs since the late 50's under the umbrella of MK Ultra. "MK" is acronym for the German "Minde Kontrol" which should give you a hint about it's origens. Also see Operation Paper Clip in that regard.

Here's a vid to get you started. Holly Wierd, news agencies, sports, ALL infiltrated with what are basically Manchurian Candidates who are robotic mind control victims. Pay special attention to Al Roker in the middle of vid. He is placed in a trance by what recovered MK victim Cathy O'Brien calls "Catholic cryptic" key words. This is real and he's not faking or joking around. Watch the female give a wink and nod to someone in the audience who is probably Roker's handler or an agent.

Also see for yourselves why Hillary didn't get the nod for POTUS. She had a stroke and was left with Vascular Dementia; a symptom of Alzheimers.

Also in this video is Kanye West (with none other than Trump) before and after they got a hold of him. God only knows what the hell torture they put him through to sterilize his mind and make him aquiescent to suggestion.

This is like a "best of" mind control vid. Just an all-around fun video to watch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD2e80vLjAI

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computer question

by Jerryh in

i have the 2015 watchtower library working fine and have started to enter some book marks.. i have the library program on a flash drive to pass around to some other folks so they can show .

witnesses at their door what they are supposed to believe.

getting the book marks transferred is .

bleak

Have you found the answer yet? I like a computer challenge so I'll give it a try. Is someone using a tablet?

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What do Jehovah's Witnesses think of modern day Israel?

by bleak in

i mentioned this to the two ladies who came by yesterday.

they indicated to me through bible readings (like 2 timothy 3 and another) that jw's are not what are called "christian zionists.

" is this true because if it is not (that jw's actually do support israel), i want no part of the jehovah's witnesses.

bleak

That is very interesting, sparrowdown. I couldn't find the "complimentary fluff piece" (do you have a link for that?) but he did "close on a $345 million purchase of 85 Jay St. in the same Dumbo neighborhood as the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Watchtower Real Estate." https://nypost.com/2016/12/20/jared-kushner-closes-on-another-dumbo-heights-property/

Considering that is the person who bought 666 Fifth Ave for $1.8 billion, I'd say all of his real estate deals have some strategic significance other than plain business deals. These people don't operate on the same level as the average person. They are nefarious in all aspects. Jesus warned us but He can't make people look. Well, He could but that wasn't His Will.

2. Jesus said, “Let one who seeks not stop seeking until one finds. When one finds, one will be troubled. When one is troubled, one will marvel and will reign over all. ~ The Gospel of Thomas

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What do Jehovah's Witnesses think of modern day Israel?

by bleak in

i mentioned this to the two ladies who came by yesterday.

they indicated to me through bible readings (like 2 timothy 3 and another) that jw's are not what are called "christian zionists.

" is this true because if it is not (that jw's actually do support israel), i want no part of the jehovah's witnesses.

bleak

Earnest
You need to go to another forum to rant about Israel. A lot of people (including me) agree with you to a greater or lesser extent, but this forum is about Jehovah's Witnesses and you have your answer that they are not Christian or any other type of Zionists. They are politically neutral. That is what you wanted to know, is it not.

You go somewhere else.

If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them. ~ James 4:17

16“No one lights a lamp and hides it in a clay jar or puts it under a bed. Instead, they put it on a stand, so that those who come in can see the light. 17For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open. 18Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what they think they have will be taken from them. ~ Luke 8:16-18

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Do Not Judge So That You Will Not Be Judged. Mth. 7:1

by VW.org in

jw
friends

i do not believe in the bible but i will use the reasoning from the new testament to argue against watchtower.

the reason i will only use the new testament is that jesus replaced the mosaic law with himself.

even watchtower agree with this principle.

bleak

Regardless of what some Jehovah's Witness might say, the Bible also says...

But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
~ Hebrews 5:14

In other words, JUDGE or discern what is good from evil. If we didn't use judgement, we would be like a computer on the internet without virus protection.

Here's another...

11Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; 12for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret. 13But all things become visible when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light.
14For this reason it says,
“Awake, sleeper,
And arise from the dead,
And Christ will shine on you.”
~ Ephesians 5:11-14

Sounds like a little judgement going on. Otherwise, how is one able to distinguish Right from Wrong? The dark from the light? Again, I'm not singling out JW. Only pointing to the pro judgemental quotes in the Bible. I don't believe every word in the Bible as we read it today is the Word of God or Christ or his deciples although much of it is. And I don't believe every word Paul said to be the truth. Colossians 3:22 is an example.

Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.
~ Mark 10:16

One must judge to navigate the traps laid before them or else fall into them.

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What do Jehovah's Witnesses think of modern day Israel?

by bleak in

i mentioned this to the two ladies who came by yesterday.

they indicated to me through bible readings (like 2 timothy 3 and another) that jw's are not what are called "christian zionists.

" is this true because if it is not (that jw's actually do support israel), i want no part of the jehovah's witnesses.

bleak

Fisherman
The Republic of Israel like every other country and nation on earth exists (except JW) based upon and depending on, military force, nuclear weapons, military bases, political alliances, and the like.

Oh yeah? Is Norway conducting genocide on anyone? Are the French invading any country, murdering, raping, destroying homes? For the last 70 years?

Whitewashing the ethnic cleansing of Palestine? I guess that makes you a zionist then, doesn't it. Israel are war criminals. You do not know what you're talking about.

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What do Jehovah's Witnesses think of modern day Israel?

by bleak in

i mentioned this to the two ladies who came by yesterday.

they indicated to me through bible readings (like 2 timothy 3 and another) that jw's are not what are called "christian zionists.

" is this true because if it is not (that jw's actually do support israel), i want no part of the jehovah's witnesses.

bleak

Are you sure that's the reason?

Fairly sure.

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What do Jehovah's Witnesses think of modern day Israel?

by bleak in

i mentioned this to the two ladies who came by yesterday.

they indicated to me through bible readings (like 2 timothy 3 and another) that jw's are not what are called "christian zionists.

" is this true because if it is not (that jw's actually do support israel), i want no part of the jehovah's witnesses.

bleak

"Oh, and although I'll get slated by some on this forum for saying so, I fully agree with your assesment of the Isreali government."

So some at least do worship Israel. Ah well good luck with that whoever you are. Israel ARE "a synogogue of satan" and the cult of Saturn. As long as Freedom of Speech prevails on this forum (with respect to the guidelines of course). Luke 9:60.

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What do Jehovah's Witnesses think of modern day Israel?

by bleak in

i mentioned this to the two ladies who came by yesterday.

they indicated to me through bible readings (like 2 timothy 3 and another) that jw's are not what are called "christian zionists.

" is this true because if it is not (that jw's actually do support israel), i want no part of the jehovah's witnesses.

bleak

Thanks for replying. Right off the top, I don't like beards either LOL. Especially those "urban lumberjack" types with long beards. They are repulsive. Anyway...

If not agreeing with everything they submit to as "the truth" is necessary, I don't see myself becoming one of them. Cuz I have a problem with people saying that God has a name for one. Those are words in a book. The book was written down by men and Jesus was not available for consultation as Editor In Chief. Who needs that crap? I'm still trying to stop scientologists from sending me their crap after 35 years of taking some "courses" and realizing it was a scam.

Also, I read scriptures like the Nag Hammadi Library which every church I've been to considers heresy ("These are the words of the living Jesus" are the first words of The Gospel of Thomas). Talk about "disfellowshipping" someone? Ask an Orthodox pastor about the Gnostics. I've had non denominational churches "disfellowship" me as soon as I ask questions about their sermons.

The ladies did know their Bibles though. I have to give them credit.

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What do Jehovah's Witnesses think of modern day Israel?

by bleak in

i mentioned this to the two ladies who came by yesterday.

they indicated to me through bible readings (like 2 timothy 3 and another) that jw's are not what are called "christian zionists.

" is this true because if it is not (that jw's actually do support israel), i want no part of the jehovah's witnesses.

bleak

I mentioned this to the two ladies who came by yesterday. They indicated to me through Bible readings (like 2 Timothy 3 and another) that JW's are not what are called "Christian Zionists." Is this true because if it is not (that JW's actually do support Israel), I want no part of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Don't lie to me; I will find the truth. I've been banned from no less than four so-called "Christian" forums for speaking out against the atrocities committed to this day by the Israeli government on the indigenous peoples of Palestine; Muslim, Christian, Jew (orthodox) it doesn't matter. The Zionists of Israel are war criminals. If anyone doubts this or thinks I am "anti-semitic" (a term appropriated by the fake Jews of Israel), see nkusa.org for more.

And maybe read these...

https://jamesperloff.com/2016/08/31/the-war-on-christianity-part-ii-the-abomination-and-blasphemy-of-christian-zionism/

https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/14/whatever-happened-to-shlomo-sand/