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Unpopular opinion

by Judgerussellford in

so i've asked this question to witnesses in the past (super no no question to ask by the way but hilarious responses) to bosses and coworkers, and random people of different faiths and i'm curious to know how mixed of a response this community will give.

bible believers or not your oppinion is very welcome.

technically according to scripture we are gods sons.

GodBeliever

“Son of man, say to the leader of Tyre, ‘The Lord God says this: “Because your heart is haughty And you have said, ‘I am a god, I sit in the seat of gods In the heart of the seas’; Yet you are a mortal and not God, Although you make your heart like the heart of God— Behold, you are wiser than Daniel; There is no secret that is a match for you! “By your wisdom and understanding You have acquired riches for yourself And have acquired gold and silver for your treasuries. “By your great wisdom, by your trade You have increased your riches, And your heart is haughty because of your riches— Therefore this is what the Lord God says: ‘Because you have made your heart Like the heart of God, Therefore, behold, I am going to bring strangers against you, The most ruthless of the nations. And they will draw their swords Against the beauty of your wisdom And profane your splendor. ‘They will bring you down to the pit, And you will die the death of those who are killed In the heart of the seas. ‘Will you still say, “I am a god,” In the presence of one who kills you, Though you are a mortal and not God, In the hands of those who wound you? ‘You will die the death of the uncircumcised By the hand of strangers, For I have spoken!’ declares the Lord God!” ’ ” Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Son of man, take up a song of mourning over the king of Tyre and say to him, ‘This is what the Lord God says: “You had the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. “You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets, Was in you. On the day that you were created They were prepared. “You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you there. You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked in the midst of the stones of fire. “You were blameless in your ways From the day you were created Until unrighteousness was found in you. “By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned; Therefore I have cast you as profane From the mountain of God. And I have destroyed you, you covering cherub, From the midst of the stones of fire. “Your heart was haughty because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor. I threw you to the ground; I put you before kings, That they may see you. “By the multitude of your wrongdoings, In the unrighteousness of your trade You profaned your sanctuaries. Therefore I have brought fire from the midst of you; It has consumed you, And I have turned you to ashes on the earth In the eyes of all who see you. “All who know you among the peoples Are appalled at you; You have become terrified And you will cease to be forever.” ’ ”

Ezekiel 28:2‭-‬19 NASB2020

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Unpopular opinion

by Judgerussellford in

so i've asked this question to witnesses in the past (super no no question to ask by the way but hilarious responses) to bosses and coworkers, and random people of different faiths and i'm curious to know how mixed of a response this community will give.

bible believers or not your oppinion is very welcome.

technically according to scripture we are gods sons.

GodBeliever

When the Lord has compassion on Jacob and again chooses Israel, and settles them on their own land, then strangers will join them and attach themselves to the house of Jacob. The peoples will take them along and bring them to their place, and the house of Israel will make them their own possession in the land of the Lord as male and female servants; and they will take their captors captive and will rule over their oppressors. And it will be on the day when the Lord gives you rest from your hardship, your turmoil, and from the harsh service in which you have been enslaved, that you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon, and say, “How the oppressor has ceased, And how the onslaught has ceased! “The Lord has broken the staff of the wicked, The scepter of rulers, Which used to strike the peoples in fury with unceasing strokes, Which subdued the nations in anger with unrestrained persecution. “The whole earth is at rest and is quiet; They break forth into shouts of joy. “Even the juniper trees rejoice over you, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, ‘Since you have been laid low, no tree cutter comes up against us.’ “Sheol below is excited about you, to meet you when you come; It stirs the spirits of the dead for you, all the leaders of the earth; It raises all the kings of the nations from their thrones. “They will all respond and say to you, ‘Even you have become weak as we, You have become like us. ‘Your pride and the music of your harps Have been brought down to Sheol; Maggots are spread out as your bed beneath you And worms are your covering.’ “How you have fallen from heaven, You star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who defeated the nations! “But you said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north. ‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’ “Nevertheless you will be brought down to Sheol, To the recesses of the pit. “Those who see you will stare at you, They will closely examine you, saying, ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms, Who made the world like a wilderness And overthrew its cities, Who did not allow his prisoners to go home?’ “All the kings of the nations lie in glory, Each in his own tomb. “But you have been hurled out of your tomb Like a rejected branch, Clothed with those killed who have been pierced with a sword, Who go down to the stones of the pit Like a trampled corpse. “You will not be united with them in burial, Because you have ruined your country, You have killed your people. May the descendants of evildoers never be mentioned.Isaiah 14:1‭-‬20 NASB2020

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Armageddon Aftermath

by Vanderhoven7 in

actually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .

welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.

https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.

GodBeliever

Hi Vanderhoven,

First question: they haven't been the Faithful and Discreet Slave for a long time now. If I say they have never been would be pointless for me to say that I am Jehovah Witness. I can also mention that most protestant denominations have enjoyed God's favour when they departed from "The woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.” from Revelation 17. I am not sure whether they still are in that position.

Second question: Yes

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Armageddon Aftermath

by Vanderhoven7 in

actually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .

welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.

https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.

GodBeliever

Vanderhoven

Salvation comes by grace!

Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and my prayer to God for them is for their salvation. For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge. For not knowing about God’s righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Romans 10:1‭-‬4 NASB2020

But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 6:22‭-‬23 NASB2020

When someone receives God's grace needs to speak to the others so they may have the opportunity to receive it themselves. Not everyone is comfortable with it and we will respect their choice.

As for the Governing Body it is the bible who speaks about:

“ ‘A son honors his father, and a servant his master. Then if I am a father, where is My honor? And if I am a master, where is My respect?’ says the Lord of armies to you, the priests who despise My name! But you say, ‘How have we despised Your name?’ You are presenting defiled food upon My altar. But you say, ‘How have we defiled You?’ In that you say, ‘The table of the Lord is to be despised.’ “But now, do indeed plead for God’s favor, so that He will be gracious to us. With such an offering on your part, will He receive any of you kindly?” says the Lord of armies. “If only there were one among you who would shut the gates, so that you would not kindle fire on My altar for nothing! I am not pleased with you,” says the Lord of armies, “nor will I accept an offering from your hand.

Malachi 1:6‭-‬7‭, ‬9‭-‬10

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Armageddon Aftermath

by Vanderhoven7 in

actually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .

welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.

https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.

GodBeliever

Waton

Humanitarian deeds I agree. However:

For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes. For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, so that all will honor the Son just as they honor the Father. The one who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. “Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

John 5:21‭-‬24 NASB

And He summoned the crowd together with His disciples, and said to them, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it.

Mark 8:34‭-‬35 NASB

But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and follow it.”

Luke 11:28

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Ephesians 2:8‭-‬9 NASB

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16 NASB2020

that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Romans 10:9‭-‬13 NASB

And it can be added a lot more to this list.

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Armageddon Aftermath

by Vanderhoven7 in

actually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .

welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.

https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.

GodBeliever

Psalm 145:17-20

The Lord is righteous in all His ways,And kind in all His works.
The Lord is near to all who call on Him,
To all who call on Him in truth.
He will fulfill the desire of those who fear Him;
He will also hear their cry for help and save them
The Lord watches over all who love Him, But He will destroy all the wicked.

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Armageddon Aftermath

by Vanderhoven7 in

actually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .

welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.

https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.

GodBeliever

Hi Vanderhoven

You probably know the answers to these questions as they are presented in Jehovah witnesses teachings.Why would I be different if I agree with such teachings. However, being part of a human organization does not guarantee anyone's salvation. As one might think that Jehovah Witnesses are just those that currently associate with WT might be wrong. The bible calls witnesses all those who make a stand for Jehovah (the God of the Bible) and his Son and speak about his purpose as stated in the Bible. As the parable of sheep and goats shows some of these 7 billion will have the opportunity to hear the gospel and they will be placed either to the right or the left of Jesus when He does the judgement according to their decision. It's entirely to Him to decide who is wicked or not . For the rest who do not have the opportunity to hear or to make an informed decision either before or during the Armaggedon God's rule does not change, for them will be a judgement day and it applies Rev. 20:12. 7

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Armageddon Aftermath

by Vanderhoven7 in

actually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .

welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.

https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.

GodBeliever

A M

BRIAN COX said he "strongly suspected" that the universe "existed before" the Big Bang, throwing the theory of our origins on its head.

"Ironically, the prevailing cosmological model explaining the existence of the observable universe from the earliest known periods through to today was first suggested by a Belgian priest named Georges Lemaître in the 1920s.He theorised that the universe began from a single primordial atom.This has been built on by scientists through the years, and is widely accepted to be the event behind our origins.But, according to Prof Cox, there was a time before this; a time before the Big Bang in which the universe did exist.He made the case for this line of argument during 'Universe', and explained: "We know that 13.8 billion years ago, this space that I'm standing in now, and the space you're standing in now, and all the space out to the edge of the observable universe, containing two trillion galaxies, was very hot and veer dense and has been expanding ever since.

"Now, that implies that way back, everything was closer together.

"Everything was contained in a very small speck.

But, how small was that speck? And how did it come to be?

"We used to think that the universe emerged in that state, very hot and very dense, at the beginning of time.

"And we used to call that the Big Bang.

"But now, we strongly suspect that the universe existed before that."

This new theory is closer to the bible account that God has no beginning and he was alone before anything was created. We don't really know what God is and how big the universe is because we don't have anything to compare with. We are locked in our physical bodies on this planet earth.

jeremiah 23

“Am I a God who is near,” declares the Lord,“And not a God far off?
Can a person hide himself in hiding placeSo that I do not see him?” declares the Lord.
“Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares the Lord.

Isaiah 66This is what the Lord says:“Heaven is My throne and the earth is the footstool for My feet.Where then is a house you could build for Me?And where is a place that I may rest? For My hand made all these things,So all these things came into being,” declares the Lord.“But I will look to this one,At one who is humble and contrite in spirit, and who trembles at My word.

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Armageddon Aftermath

by Vanderhoven7 in

actually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .

welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.

https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.

GodBeliever

It's not about witnessing. Most people on this forum are aware of these topics. It's about presenting these facts in a different light.

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Armageddon Aftermath

by Vanderhoven7 in

actually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .

welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.

https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.

GodBeliever

Before the mountains were born Or You gave birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.

Psalms 90:2

By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, And by the breath of His mouth all their lights.

Psalms 33:6