This people honors Me with their lips , But their heart is far away from Me .
Matthew 15:8
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This people honors Me with their lips , But their heart is far away from Me .
Matthew 15:8
great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
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Yes, a great speech indeed! There must be something they were not happy with: the Truth.
at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.
like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.
can we pinpoint a time or event?.
Vanderhoven7
1954
In 1954 with the demotion of Jesus Christ to angelic status. From that point onward the possibility of relationship with Jesus ended.
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."in the early 1980s together with my brothers we decided to started collecting watchtower literature and have them neatly in a library at home.
with the help of our father he gave us all the books bought during the years that he had stored in a big wooden box.. after purchasing all the literature that we had missing from the kingdom hall we decided to write letters to the world headquarters of jehovah’s witnesses in brooklyn new york as well to the british and australian branch office.. unfortunately none of our requests bear fruit as they informed us: “it is doubtful whether they are available anywhere in the world….” (ca february 23, 1983); “unable to supply the old publications you request.” (sa: sg september 20, 1983) “we will keep your letter on our files….”(sa: sg january 22, 1983).. during the years we managed to obtain many of these early books going back to 1879 when this religious organization was started.. through barbara anderson we learned that in 30 columbia heights building new york they had a warehouse storage where they kept many old literature which don kommers the assistant of vern wisegarver was responsible for.
through these publications we learned what exactly was written by charles russell and joseph rutherford regarding predictions that never came to be.
Thank you very much for the hard work you've done. I have enjoyed reading most of that literature. I was always wandering who brought all those publications together.
As for their predictions based on the Bible teachings many of them were true: The creation of the United Nations, the downfall of organised religion, the period of peace the western world has enjoyed after the second world war, the rise of evil slave that is in charge today at WT( see The man of sin 1930) and many others.
As for the end of the world nobody can predict that, as the Bible states. Some milestones can be used to see at what point in time we are. We need to be patient. If it doesn't happen in our lifetime what is the matter?
We can devout our life to God without making ourselves slaves to humans.
body of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.
two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.
the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.
Do not trust in deceptive words, saying, ‘This is the temple of the Lord , the temple of the Lord , the temple of the Lord .’ For if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly practice justice between a man and his neighbor, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, or the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place, nor walk after other gods to your own ruin, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers forever and ever. “Behold, you are trusting in deceptive words to no avail. Will you steal, murder, and commit adultery and swear falsely, and offer sacrifices to Baal and walk after other gods that you have not known, then come and stand before Me in this house, which is called by My name, and say, ‘We are delivered!’—that you may do all these abominations? Has this house, which is called by My name, become a den of robbers in your sight? Behold, I, even I, have seen it, ” declares the Lord .
Jeremiah 7:4-11
Same applies l for the Israel nation, Catholic church, WT. All once in God's favour but then they fell away into the devil's deception.
i'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
Thank you!
i've never thought about it before, but isn't it some sort of blasphemy and extremism to use a god's name in the official name of your religion?.
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Jesus therefore said to those Jews that had believed him, If ye abide in my word, then are ye truly my disciples; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
But
the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the
Father in spirit and truth: for such doth the Father seek to be his
worshippers. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
There
is no fear in love: but perfect love casteth out fear, because fear
hath punishment; and he that feareth is not made perfect in love.
Worshiping God should not be under the fear of punishment or superstitiously.
i've never thought about it before, but isn't it some sort of blasphemy and extremism to use a god's name in the official name of your religion?.
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The etymological Latin root religio was understood as an individual virtue of worship in mundane contexts; never as doctrine, practice, or actual source of knowledge.[8][9] In general, religio referred to broad social obligations towards anything including family, neighbors, rulers, and even towards God.[4] Religio was most often used by the ancient Romans not in the context of a relation towards gods, but as a range of general emotions such as hesitation, caution, anxiety, fear; feelings of being bound, restricted, inhibited; which arose from heightened attention in any mundane context.[5] The term was also closely related to other terms like scrupulus which meant "very precisely" and some Roman authors related the term superstitio, which meant too much fear or anxiety or shame, to religio at times. definition of religio offered by Cicero is cultus deorum, "the proper performance of rites in veneration of the gods."[19]
Religio among the Romans was not based on "faith", but on knowledge, including and especially correct practice.[20] Religio (plural religiones) was the pious practice of Rome's traditional cults, and was a cornerstone of the mos maiorum,[21] the traditional social norms that regulated public, private, and military life. To the Romans, their success was self-evidently due to their practice of proper, respectful religio, which gave the gods what was owed them and which was rewarded with social harmony, peace and prosperity.
Religious law maintained the proprieties of divine honours, sacrifice, and ritual. Impure sacrifice and incorrect ritual were vitia (faults, hence "vice," the English derivative); excessive devotion, fearful grovelling to deities, and the improper use or seeking of divine knowledge were superstitio; neglecting the religiones owed to the traditional gods was atheism, a charge leveled during the Empire at Jews,[22] Christians, and Epicureans.[23] Any of these moral deviations could cause divine anger (ira deorum) and, therefore, harm the Statei've never thought about it before, but isn't it some sort of blasphemy and extremism to use a god's name in the official name of your religion?.
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Not a religious organisation though.