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  Hypocritical Stance of Jehovah`s Witnesses Over The Years.

  by smiddy3 in

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  i`m thinking of times when the jw organization has been hypocritical in their beliefs / practices .

  they make sure they are no part of christendom in any way shape or form ,the understanding the r&f have of the organization.. the r&f members are not to have any dealings with christendoms religions in business or otherwise.. but what does the jw organization do ?

  they sell watchtower property to christendoms churches for profit .. the r&f are to be separate from the world and call the league of nations and it`s successor the united nations the counterfeit kingdom of god ,the abhorrent thing standing in the place of god ?.

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  GodBeliever

  In the 1940's when Watchtower was a corporation regarded religion as coming from Satan (It must be, since all the divisions it created, the lies it spreads and the exploitation that bring upon people ). However, early in the 1950's something happened and being religion became acceptable as long as it was "true religion". I was wondering if this new interpretation had anything to do with the fact that religious organisations are subject to tax exemptions and government subsidies? The European Court ruled against France in a case concerning a tax demand claimed from the Jehovah’s Witnesses. The amount: over 57.5 million euro. (It seems they do not remember what Jesus said about giving Caesar's what belongs Caesar's and God's what belongs God's) The exception was considered on religious grounds. I wonder what they do with all the money they save this way? I doubt they give it away to the poor or lifetime pioneers. They might use them in building a multimillion state of the art headquarters with all the leisure facilities so they can enjoy themselves.

  I don't know. Is that hypocrisy?
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  So What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Do Now?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  they don’t go to conventions .

  they don’t go to assemblies.

  they don’t go to meetings.

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  GodBeliever

  LV101

  Hi GodBeliever - are you quoting scripture(s) from the NWT or another version?

  I would quote from most existing versions doesn't make much difference. However, I am a bit sceptical about NWT. I believe is biased and was done in order to support some WT doctrinal changes. In some situations a single word misinterpreted can make a huge difference.
  
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  So What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Do Now?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they don’t go to conventions .

  they don’t go to assemblies.

  they don’t go to meetings.

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  GodBeliever

  Through Him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His name.

  Their preaching work is not approved by God anyway, because acording to WT original teachings their "lips are not clean" and their "sacrifice of praise" is not being received.
  
  Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  GodBeliever

  We will know by this that we are of the truth, and will assure our heart before Him in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things. Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things that are pleasing in His sight. This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

  1 John 3:19‭-‬24
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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  GodBeliever

  This people honors Me with their lips , But their heart is far away from Me .

  Matthew 15:8
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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  GodBeliever

  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

  2 Timothy 4:3‭-‬4
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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  GodBeliever

  Yes, a great speech indeed! There must be something they were not happy with: the Truth.
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  When did WT lose the spirit?

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

  like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

  can we pinpoint a time or event?.

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  GodBeliever

  Vanderhoven7

  1954

  In 1954 with the demotion of Jesus Christ to angelic status. From that point onward the possibility of relationship with Jesus ended.

  "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

  2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
  In March 1954 they also changed the teaching regarding religion. Where the Bible clearly teaches that worshipping God is not religion the WT leadership came to the conclusion that actually is "true religion".
  
  
  
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  Watchtower Library

  by Paul Bonanno in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the early 1980s together with my brothers we decided to started collecting watchtower literature and have them neatly in a library at home.

  with the help of our father he gave us all the books bought during the years that he had stored in a big wooden box.. after purchasing all the literature that we had missing from the kingdom hall we decided to write letters to the world headquarters of jehovah’s witnesses in brooklyn new york as well to the british and australian branch office.. unfortunately none of our requests bear fruit as they informed us: “it is doubtful whether they are available anywhere in the world….” (ca february 23, 1983); “unable to supply the old publications you request.” (sa: sg september 20, 1983) “we will keep your letter on our files….”(sa: sg january 22, 1983).. during the years we managed to obtain many of these early books going back to 1879 when this religious organization was started.. through barbara anderson we learned that in 30 columbia heights building new york they had a warehouse storage where they kept many old literature which don kommers the assistant of vern wisegarver was responsible for.

  through these publications we learned what exactly was written by charles russell and joseph rutherford regarding predictions that never came to be.

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  GodBeliever

  Thank you very much for the hard work you've done. I have enjoyed reading most of that literature. I was always wandering who brought all those publications together.

  As for their predictions based on the Bible teachings many of them were true: The creation of the United Nations, the downfall of organised religion, the period of peace the western world has enjoyed after the second world war, the rise of evil slave that is in charge today at WT( see The man of sin 1930) and many others.

  As for the end of the world nobody can predict that, as the Bible states. Some milestones can be used to see at what point in time we are. We need to be patient. If it doesn't happen in our lifetime what is the matter?

  We can devout our life to God without making ourselves slaves to humans.
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  BOE Update! (as of 2020-07-31)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  body of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.

  two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.

  the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.

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  GodBeliever

  Do not trust in deceptive words, saying, ‘This is the temple of the Lord , the temple of the Lord , the temple of the Lord .’ For if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly practice justice between a man and his neighbor, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, or the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place, nor walk after other gods to your own ruin, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers forever and ever. “Behold, you are trusting in deceptive words to no avail. Will you steal, murder, and commit adultery and swear falsely, and offer sacrifices to Baal and walk after other gods that you have not known, then come and stand before Me in this house, which is called by My name, and say, ‘We are delivered!’—that you may do all these abominations? Has this house, which is called by My name, become a den of robbers in your sight? Behold, I, even I, have seen it, ” declares the Lord .

  Jeremiah 7:4‭-‬11

  Same applies l for the Israel nation, Catholic church, WT. All once in God's favour but then they fell away into the devil's deception.