Posts by waton

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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i don`t think so .

hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.

with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..

waton

Logically though either the universe existed eternally or God existed eternally

wrong choice! the universe did not exist eternally, uncreated energy available to the creator is eternal though.

Now given the universe and then taking it away and creating a void for example to illustrate a condition without the universe, that is not logical

removing the universe would free the portion of energy locked up presently in spacetime & matter and return it to its pristine, pre-big -bang form, akin to the heat death of the universe. recycling the energy.

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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i don`t think so .

hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.

with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..

waton

That can also be said about the physical ,material universe , is that not also true ?

not true.

we have measured the effect that energy can not be destroyed, or created, is eternal, therefore time is eternal, but

the present local form of energy as matter, in a 3 dimensional space is not.

soon it might be coffee time, but spacetime is only 13.8 billion years old. time itself, energy uncreated.

Evidence of a, the creator is a personal quest, will be given on a personal level, second hand "witnessing" will not be needed, counted, believed.

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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i don`t think so .

hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.

with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..

waton

reading Lawrence M. Krauss (an atheist) called A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing,

Highly recommended reading, for the final analysis, resume' is:

There is no such thing as nothing. never was.

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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i don`t think so .

hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.

with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..

waton

There is a lot of disrespect, disdain, ridicule for people that do actual work. There is tremendous energy, work locked up in creation. just because we are discovering the expanding gaps in our knowledge, find out how how things work, naturally, does not mean it was not work in the first place.

"by their works you will know them" . ( using the new neutral pronoun craze to describe the supposed father figure)

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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i don`t think so .

hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.

with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..

waton

Solar System and it`s Planets i.m.h.o., the solar system is a non biblical message from a possible creator.

take the 10s: the number of our digits. Brought to the simplest ratios, the planetary orbits* give our planet the number 10 .

In 1/10 AU,: from Mercury to Pluto: Mercury 4, Venus 7,+3 = Earth10, +6 = Mars 16,+12 = Asteroids 28 +24= Jupiter 52, +48 = Saturn 100, +96 = Uranus 196 neptune ~~292~~, + 192 = Pluto 388. ( minim .3 AU maximum 9.6 Au. doubling of orbit diameter spacings. , and:

Earth orbit diameter: 1000 seconds.

surface gravity: 10 msc^2

orbit velocity: 1/10 000 of "c" * the speed of light the max universal speed limit

ratio of moon and earth rotation: 1:100*

atmospheric pressure: 10 meters of water. and

the ha ha factoid: Noah's flood: 10meters rain per hour. makes you cry., watery eyes

All this, and life itself could have seemingly created itself, prompted by the eternal energy and laws given to the universe. No hands- on -work needed, as I.Newton thought.

Creation, a creator is beyond what we can think. The bible and it's religions present but a caricature of the immense work we live in.

* independent of what units of measure used.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

waton

Is it the reading out loud of the scriptures to others? Is the food literal food which is fed to people hungry for literal food to feed their literal tummies?

Jesus did both, so do some charities.

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Happy New Year!

by Vanderhoven7 in

may 2023 bring you happiness health and love!.

what are you thinking will happen in 2023....positive or otherwise?.

waton

Lucky us, to be on this planet that takes ~31 500 000 seconds to get back to the same relative position to it's star. of the past/in the future. When the sun was heavier, it might have been 31 415 926 seconds in a year, --perfect,

If the number sequence seems familiar to you, -- it is,-- from family, the father, the universal constant, Pi

Our speed to get forward to January 1, 2024 is 30 km/sec. 1/ 10 000 the speed of light. oh, what flight.

clearly this is a set up, a heavenly have a good year message.

wt's forbidding personal yearly festivities/ wishes: wee.

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drinking wine in the Kingdom

by enoughisenough in

something jumped out at me that i never paid attention to while reading further into matt 26...in vs 28, he tells them his blood is to be poured out for the many for forgiveness of sin.

but note vs 29 but i say to you: i will no menas drink again any of this product of the vine until that day when i drink it new with you in the kingdom of my father.

cross reference luke 22:18 for i tell you , from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.. what is the point of all of this: matt 26:29 " i drink it new with you " mark 14:25 " drink new in the kingdom of god.

waton

Since Noah's flood and the destruction of Lot's Sodom & Gomorrah are symbols/types for the Armageddon devastation, the change into the wt New World, the kingdom to come, ---

In both instances wine and its warming, warning effects are told as an immediate feature of the better times ahead.

keep the drinking in the family.

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drinking wine in the Kingdom

by enoughisenough in

something jumped out at me that i never paid attention to while reading further into matt 26...in vs 28, he tells them his blood is to be poured out for the many for forgiveness of sin.

but note vs 29 but i say to you: i will no menas drink again any of this product of the vine until that day when i drink it new with you in the kingdom of my father.

cross reference luke 22:18 for i tell you , from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.. what is the point of all of this: matt 26:29 " i drink it new with you " mark 14:25 " drink new in the kingdom of god.

waton

They taste nasty to me after if I taste any alcohol or vinegar or mold in them.

Dijw, good wine is supposed to age for a few years. Your distaste for alcohol will serve you well. the stuff is not a life preserving substance. but

in the first miracle story, the celebrants, as they ran out of wine, were dulled to the extend, that they could not taste the difference between the "perfect" product of the miracle, and a "pioneer special" ancient equivalent.

after thought: 1000 years of full time wt service will drive you to drink, holding your nose.

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drinking wine in the Kingdom

by enoughisenough in

something jumped out at me that i never paid attention to while reading further into matt 26...in vs 28, he tells them his blood is to be poured out for the many for forgiveness of sin.

but note vs 29 but i say to you: i will no menas drink again any of this product of the vine until that day when i drink it new with you in the kingdom of my father.

cross reference luke 22:18 for i tell you , from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.. what is the point of all of this: matt 26:29 " i drink it new with you " mark 14:25 " drink new in the kingdom of god.

waton

A fellow pioneer, 60 years ago had this motto, raison d'etre : in the New World I am going to be a one crop farmer: vine yards, grapes. or

as was said in one movie punch line: "these grapes are very intelligent fruit, they know how to trun themselves into wine."

It is doubtful that in the future, much attention will be paid to keep fermentation from happening. It is natural.

"eat and drink all of you.-- keep doing this". J.C